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        10-27-2008, 09:48 AM
      #31
    Super Moderator
    If you arent showing, then what does it really matter? If you like a hackamore, go for it, if your horse responds to it, use it.

    Understand that if you are showing, or if you are planning to show, then you need to teach your horse to accept and respond to a bit, you need to look at the rule books to whichever show you are planning to participate in and you need to be sure you are using a legal bit.

    If your horse is 5 or under then you can show western in a bosal, but for english, I believe you have to use a bit.

    Again, if you are not showing, then what does it really matter? Use what works for you.

    One thing I do want to say is that most of the time (not all of the time, but alot...) the problem is not with the bit, or the horse... it's with the rider. Pay attention to your hands, make sure you arent over correcting or forgetting to reward the horse for giving to the pressure...

    I personally like it when my horse can go in any type of bit, from a snaffle to a correctional port w/out having any issues. I like being able to use a bosal and a halter to ride, I think horses should be versatile...

    Anyway... let us know how the hackamore works out for you!
         
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        10-27-2008, 11:10 AM
      #32
    Yearling
    Ditto on the reply above...if you're not showing than go for the bitless and experiment. I've actually thought about buying a bitless bridle for trail rides...especially in the winter as it is a pain to warm up the bit in my hands before I stick it in his mouth.

    As far as the not stopping though...I have to agree with JDI...most likely a training issue or teeth issue. I don't know how old your guy is but if he is fairly young you might need to check his teeth to see if his is teething. I had a lot of issues with my 4 year old because he was losing teeth. Just had to wait it out. Anyhow...I don't know what training techniques you prescribe to but actually I teach my horses to stop when I breath out and relax my butt (I don't do the reiner butt roll) just relax and breathe out. I don't touch my reins at all unless it is an emergency or misbehavior incident.
         
        10-27-2008, 11:11 AM
      #33
    Trained
    This has already been touched upon but IMO if your horse won't stop with a bit in it's mouth a hack isn't going to fix the problem. It will simply be a band-aid.

    Ground work and respect are the keys to getting a horse to "listen".

    To me, Whoa...Is not a command that is "optional". If a horse won't whoa from the ground EVERY time they hear it. I won't mount the horse. A deep seat and light rein contact if any is all I want for whoa.

    I would suggest getting back to ground work and getting chance to whoa EVERY time you say it.

    Then go back to the bit and try that. I know what I wrote was in a "nutshell" but back to basics is my suggestion!

    Good Luck!
         
        10-27-2008, 12:15 PM
      #34
    Super Moderator
    I never saw where the OP said that the horse is having issues stopping... Am I missing something?
         
        10-27-2008, 12:43 PM
      #35
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
    With chance if you have a snaffle bridle on and you ask for a whoa you can pull all day and she will still be inching forward xD but the last time I rode her with a bosal hackamore type thing she stopped completely with the slightest pull I was shocked!! Let alone getting a backwards movement front her lol!


    Honestly I think some horses respond much better with out the bit.

    Farmpony... This was mentioned by the OP. I was responding to this statement.
         
        10-27-2008, 12:55 PM
      #36
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dumas'_Grrrl    
    Farmpony... This was mentioned by the OP. I was responding to this statement.
    ...Aaaahhhh.... You are such a smart girl! I missed that... I was wondering why people kept mentioning the band-aid..... Gotcha.......
         
        10-27-2008, 06:09 PM
      #37
    Trained
    Might I suggest an appointment with the optometrist?? Lol just kiddin with ya
         
        10-27-2008, 08:30 PM
      #38
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jazzyrider    
    might I suggest an appointment with the optometrist?? Lol just kiddin with ya
    I just got me some new coach glasses.... maybe I need contacts too?
         
        10-30-2008, 06:55 AM
      #39
    Green Broke
    Lmao wow you guys. Well hopefully the hackamore will be here friday!
         

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