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        06-20-2010, 02:42 PM
    I have known a lot of horses who just cannot handle their manes being pulled - my trainer once referenced it to be similar to brushing your own hair when it's extremely knotty, you don't just pull and rip until you rip hair out because it freakin hurts! Some horses may have thicker skin, higher pain tolerance, etc...who really knows! It might take a lot longer, but I would recommend trying a different method, such as taking a fine toothed comb and back-combing the hair until the uneven or long hairs and left and trimming them. This still gives you a natural look without the stress of pulling! Works everytime!

    As for the clippers, I have always used the touch-praise method - have your clippers ready and slowly move them up towards their ears, dragging it along their neck so they know what is coming. The second the horse freaks out, turn off the clippers but stay on that spot. Once calm, turn them back on and feed a small treat. If they allow you to do this calmly, continuing moving up towards the ears and repeat the process when a freak out occurs. I have used this on a couple of horses and it works quite well! Again, it takes a long time, but it will be worth it in the long run!
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        06-20-2010, 02:53 PM
    I personally do not like lilkittys recommendation--if your saddlebred reacts so adversely to the pain of having her mane pulled, how is she going to react to the pain of a chain across her gums? Although she is correct in saying the behavior is dangerous, it is recommended that you never tie with a stud chain, and pulling a mane is not something absolutely necessary to the point where you need to think of ways of how to get her to accept it. I'd just go with Unicorn's suggestion on thinning/cutting the mane.

    Also, what kind of clippers are you using? Those big clunky clippers might be scary to some horses, but they make quieter, hand held models just for doing ears and such that fit in the palm of your hand so they don't vibrate quite as loudly. You can also try using hand-operated clippers.
        06-20-2010, 03:31 PM
    Green Broke
    No no justsambam it's definitely not the best option and NEVER tie with a stud chain. Always have a 2nd person! And defintely any other option IS better use this as a last resort kind of thing. If anything you want to solve the problem not cover it up. So defintely try every other option first I thouraghly agree! Stud chain is never the best option
        06-20-2010, 06:19 PM
    I have a pulling comb.. and for all it's worth I cannot remember what it's called but it's really a "pull free" pulling comb. It has blades on it that cut the hair when you press a button, so if you go through all the steps of pulling but instead of actually pulling the hair out, you just cut it. Depending on the mane, it would probably still require some thinning but it certainly makes it easier (and quicker!!!) for horses that hate pulling.

    Not to mention, it could help her learn to calm down while you're doing it as there isn't any pulling. She'll learn to get used to the steps of pulling and realize that it's not ouchie!

    Here, I found a picture of one:

    Might be worth checking out!
        06-20-2010, 10:03 PM
    I don't see how you can think pulling a mane doesn't hurt. Horses have nerve ending all over their body. Their mane is no exception. Sure the hair itself is dead and feels nothing, but when you rip it out by the roots it hurts. Try pulling your own hair out. Did you feel that?

    I would just use a thinning shears if it is that important to you to have a thinned mane. Then you know it isn't hurting her.
        06-20-2010, 10:06 PM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by draftrider    
    I don't see how you can think pulling a mane doesn't hurt. Horses have nerve ending all over their body. Their mane is no exception. Sure the hair itself is dead and feels nothing, but when you rip it out by the roots it hurts. Try pulling your own hair out. Did you feel that?

    I would just use a thinning shears if it is that important to you to have a thinned mane. Then you know it isn't hurting her.
    That's what I was thinking. But I've heard more than one person say mane pulling doesn't hurt. Sure could have fooled me by the reaction I've seen from the horses at our barn.
        06-20-2010, 10:27 PM
    Why would you insist on doing things your horse clearly has a strong reaction to just for vanity?

    I also show, and I don't clip ears as I have my horses paddocked and it is unhealthy to do so - And yet I still win classes regularly. If your performance is good enough you will win - You won't win because you have perfectly clipped ears.

    I simply fold the ear and trim the hair that sticks out with scissors.

    In regards to pulling - I hog manes so I don't have to pull, but the few times I tried to pull Wildey's mane he was the same, rearing. He is extremely mild mannered so the reaction was proof enough that it was hurting him and I never did it again - I just thinned it and shortened it with the various products designed to do just that.
        06-20-2010, 10:30 PM
    It is just vanity. Sorry, but it is. I prefer my horse with long flowing manes and tails. Why not do dressage with a long mane?
        06-20-2010, 10:31 PM
    I won't clip ears either. I've seen way too many horses with their ears chewed up by bugs and with ear infections from getting debris in. The hair is there for a reason.
        06-21-2010, 01:19 PM
    My CWB does not tolerate her mane being pulled, so I now use thinning shears to keep her mane short. With practice and a steady hand, the shears can produce a nice result.

    I would rather have an ugly, choppy hack job with scissors then subject my mare to something she's clearly not comfortable with, IMO.

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