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post #21 of 28 Old 05-09-2012, 04:13 PM
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I've been waiting to see if the first vid was able to be viewed. I can't watch it on my phone. What is it that you did? I thought I saw somewhere that it said you did over the top(with the reins), maybe on the Youtube description? Anyway, if that is the case, I don't see it any different than using a crop. I also do it when I get a lack of response. Most of the time I'm hitting my own legs and not the horse. Usually it only takes just the movement of the reins back and forth without even hitting the horse. That's usually what I start with and if it has no reaction, then start smacking the horse.
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post #22 of 28 Old 05-09-2012, 04:45 PM
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Necessary evil? Nah. I'd MUCH rather see a good pop and an appropriate response than a rider nagging, nagging, nagging until the horse just becomes dead to the leg.
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post #23 of 28 Old 05-09-2012, 05:20 PM
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I've been working with this mare for my mom. She's been going very well, except for a single problem: not responding to my "forward" cues. So, after verbal cues, sqeezing, tapping and kicking, I gave her some... encouragement, and let her go with it. I didn't stop her as soon as she took off, and I slowed her back down into a nice lope.

I just had to share. Sometimes, things like this are necassary, even though you might not like doing it (I don't) and other people might not like it, but when it comes down to it, you gotta do what you gotta do!


Hi Jackie,
I agree with you, its not the funnest part of training, but if done in an increased pressure way it has to go until you have the correct response.. Otherwise the horse will never learn.. Although maybe you could have been a bit more gradual about it, and praised on less response first.. But was it the first attempt, probably not ;)
Also it is always good to ask with less and less pressure, each time, otherwise your going to have to hit harder and harder..
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I've been waiting to see if the first vid was able to be viewed. I can't watch it on my phone. What is it that you did? I thought I saw somewhere that it said you did over the top(with the reins), maybe on the Youtube description? Anyway, if that is the case, I don't see it any different than using a crop. I also do it when I get a lack of response. Most of the time I'm hitting my own legs and not the horse. Usually it only takes just the movement of the reins back and forth without even hitting the horse. That's usually what I start with and if it has no reaction, then start smacking the horse.
She was using split reins with quite a bit of rein on the end, and she whapped the horse once or twice on the shoulder.

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post #25 of 28 Old 05-09-2012, 08:07 PM
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Okay. Yup, that's what I do. I like having the long reins so if you need to, you can get them any where. If they don't want to move their butt over, the reins will reach and you don't have to carry a crop along.
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post #26 of 28 Old 05-09-2012, 08:09 PM
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I will also swing them in a circle on their side just so they get used to them moving and not spook at them.
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post #27 of 28 Old 05-09-2012, 08:21 PM
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If you progressed in stages asking for a response, I see escalation of force in training. *shrugs* (I will add, better get some velcro for your butt when she is fully trained LOL) I'm waiting on the evil.

Now if that had been a whiffle ball bat, That would be a horse of a different color!

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post #28 of 28 Old 05-14-2012, 05:58 AM
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I think she got the point!! Lol Sometimes it's necessary, but not very fun :/ I would have done the same thing, as long as you tried and tried and got no response. She should be a fun one :) nice calm attitude, but plenty of get up and go!!!
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