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        02-19-2008, 09:45 PM
      #11
    Deb
    Foal
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    Deb wrote:
    Have a little riding crop in your "neck rein" hand. As you apply pressure on his neck with the rein, the riding crop should move up beside his face (don't wack him accidently) and just sort of jiggle it there beside his eye.


    My mare would have absolutely flipped if I waved a crop in her face!]

    You aren't "waving" it in her face, I said just a little jiggle, or in some cases, just a touch to the cheek and she would move away from it.

    My Anglo is a very hot mare, and she took it very well.
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        02-19-2008, 09:47 PM
      #12
    Foal
    It may not freak a horse out, but why bother? It's a strange method. No offence, everyone has a different opinion.
         
        02-19-2008, 09:48 PM
      #13
    Deb
    Foal
    [argh I don't like Parelli Sorry it's just some of his stuff is kind of weird]

    Have you ever taken the time to get to know what the Parelli techniques are all about? Or checked out his website? I believe he has some really good info available on it that will give you a better understanding that I could.
         
        02-19-2008, 09:52 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Yes, I have watched his show several times and read his stuff. I can see how he would be useful to people with pet horses, but his methods aren't very practical for show horses. I mean, he never shows and most successful show people don't use his methods, if you can name some people I would be interested. Ok, now I am ranting and off topic It's all a matter of opinion and preference, but I would never use his methods. I do appreciate John Lyons, I feel he is a bit more practical, but he can be weird, too. As my cutting trainer once said, those guys are more so movie stars that do tricks with their horses than showmen. Which is fine, just my thing.
         
        02-19-2008, 10:30 PM
      #15
    Deb
    Foal
    Regarding Parelli's methods, I think his goal is to teach people how to understand how horses communicate with one another, and how to use that understanding to communicate with their animals in an effective way so that they don't have to resort to some of the more "demanding" and abusive ways that some people have. Seems to me that this kind of understanding would be helpful to people in any discipline wouldn't it?
         
        02-19-2008, 10:33 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Parelli is not god and there are other ways to humanely train a horse. His methods just don't work for some disciplines. I would support myself more but this really isn't the section to be doing this in.
         
        02-20-2008, 05:24 AM
      #17
    Deb
    Foal
    Just curious as to which disciplines wouldn't benefit from having a good understanding on how to communicate with your horse in a more horsey way?
         
        02-20-2008, 07:26 AM
      #18
    Foal
    I'm not going to keep going on because you are never going to agree with me, but after watching his methods he could never, EVER, train a cutter that way, ect. Don't get me wrong, he's great, just not a showmen. There are some specialized events that take special training that I am involved in and he just doesn't work. And then there is the occasional thing he says that is weird or ticks me off, and then I stop watching and go ride my horse.
         
        02-20-2008, 07:36 AM
      #19
    Foal
    And there are other ways to train your horse. I always think of myself as a member of the herd when I train my horses, even if I'm not going out there with a weird stick and doing Parelli stuff. I go out and do a lot of bending, keep my horse very light in the mouth and sides, and play with cows. I have always been very happy with this method and I have never done Parelli stuff.
         
        02-20-2008, 02:29 PM
      #20
    Deb
    Foal
    Well I'm glad for you that what you do works and that you enjoy it. It does seem to me that the more different things you do with your horse, the better off his mind is. And these techniques are simply another thing to do. And I think that lots of these guys who do clinics are focussing at those times on giving people a good grounding, but are fully expecting that those folks will also move into specific disciplines that will take specialised training. It's been a very long time since I looked at Parelli's stuff, so I can't even remember what he teaches to those who go through all the levels but from what I do remember, he wanted people to develop relationships with their horses to the extent that no matter what the person asked, the horse was willing because he'd come to respect and trust him implicitly. Kind of like the police horses who become so used to all kinds of weird stuff, that going into crowds, etc., doesn't phase them.

    I think that just like everything else, there is always room for multiple ways of doing something or achieving something, just as long as no one, including animals, gets hurt.
         

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