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  • Can a horse be led by rope around his neck?
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    04-28-2010, 08:20 PM
  #21
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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
Fair enough.
Okay, I'm putting myself out there, for better or worse (*braces*) :
IF a horse falls or gets himself into such a situation where either something on the halter breaks, or he does, I'd much prefer it be the halter. Now, I'm saying this about a horse that would normally tie fine, but gets himself into a bit of trouble (eg: spooks, and slips... or something. Can you tell my coffee has worn off?) -- for a puller, I would look at an alternative LIKE this, but with a wider distribution like I said earlier with a cinch. I will try to find a photo.. it's in a Western Horseman book.
I will pull off a busy highway into a grass shoulder, one that sort of has a driveway so the horse trailer doesn't go through the ditch. I will unload and tie a horse to each side of the trail. We are maybe 20 feet from a busy highway and we saddle up. Do I really want my horse to suddenly pull back and break free?? What would happen to him if he suddenly broke free and went flying into traffic ??. If he is so stupid as to fall, which I have never seen happen and he is hung by the neck I will free him using the correct knot on the tie ring and allow him to get up. Again I don't want a halter breaking and him running into certain death.
When you slip the halter he is still tied by the neck rope so until the head stall is on and throat latch done up he is secure.
I also trailer to mauls, pick a quiet corner and saddle up and ride out. Again I don't want a run away horse heading across the maul parking lot and onto a busy busy expressway. He will be killed or at the very very least wipe out on the pavement and skin himself up.
NO when I tie I tie so he stays put no matter what.

I will go to the beach for the day and leave him tied in the camping area and only ask someone to keep a eye on him but I expect nothing to require assistance. I do tie and camp for 3 days.
     
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    04-28-2010, 08:22 PM
  #22
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I can't say that it will never break, no. But I have never had one break even with some pretty good sized horses fighting until they got themselves down.
     
    04-28-2010, 08:23 PM
  #23
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Originally Posted by IslandWave    
I've never seen or heard of a neck rope before. When I read your title I first assumued it concerned how the backyard horse owners here stake out their horse in a field with one end of the rope around their neck and other other end tied to a metal stake.

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You want to see that go to Spain. There are alot of horses staked out along the expressways with nothing more then a rope around their necks and a stake in the ground. They are watered once a day and their picked moved at the time.
     
    04-28-2010, 08:28 PM
  #24
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Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
Interesting concept. However, my girls straight tie, cross-tie, and ground tie. For the most part, they are cross-tied or ground tied, and in both cases, the neck rope would be either more dangerous or unneccesary, lol. Oftentimes, I'll use my belt around my mare's neck to "lead" her into the barn because I'll do something silly like forget to rab her halter, lol. Or I just grab her forelock, haha.
My guys does it all too including hobbling. I often hobble. I hobble the front very tight, almost no movement. I hobble the back looser and sometimes I hobble all 4. He ground ties very well, cross ties for shoing and solid ties when I am saddling beside the trailer. Alot of the times there is NO room for error. To break free is to die. I prefer a safe secure fool proof tie any time.
I welcome my horse to try fighting a tie. He has fought it many times and I encourage him to try. A horse that doens't trie isn't really broke. Try typing and then drag a hose past the horses nose or try spooking the horse. A well broke horse doesn't try, it dances but it doesn't try. Yes in the beginning they try but after a number of failed attempts they learn it is useless to try but like I said I want a horse to fight at least once with all it has. I don't panic, I don't turn the horse loose, I just stand back and watch. They never win, they educate themselves about what it means to be tied.
     
    04-28-2010, 08:31 PM
  #25
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Originally Posted by Phaeton    
I like the idea I just wonder what happens when they might pull back.Things like halters and ropes break for a reason so the horse does not get hurt. What happens here what going to break. I use a rope halter and run the throat latch through the halter that way when driving the can't rub the bridle off on the other horse.
Why do you want the horse to break free?? To break free teaches the horse not to tie. I want him to fight, to loose and to learn what it means to tie. Would you tie a horse up and go away for 3 or 4 hours.
I even tie nights while I sleep while camping.
No I don't want my halter to ever break, no matter what. Every horse if spooked will try to break free EXCEPT those that have fought and lost. They learn to just dance.
How about tying your horse up and then tell him to back, back him hard into the tie and see if he fights or just moves forward???

I never have had my horse escape a tie, never
     
    04-28-2010, 08:34 PM
  #26
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
I don't know about RD, but I don't want a fighting horse to get loose unless I deem they are in enough danger that I need to cut the rope. I have seen way too many horses learn to pull back because they know that the halter or lead will break. That is an awful habit and a pretty hard one to break.
I will break them of the habit because every single time I tie I tie as if today the big fight is coming. I tie a good knot to a good solid object every time I tie. I never had a horse break free but again I NEVER tie to a halter with a lead rope, always always a neck rope
     
    04-28-2010, 08:38 PM
  #27
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I completely agree with you there. I let them fight it out too. I was simply stating that a horse that has been allowed to break free for months or years won't get over it in a single session. It takes lots of fights before they figure it out.
     
    04-28-2010, 08:39 PM
  #28
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Originally Posted by thunderhooves    
While neck ropes may be "rgiht" to you, it might not be for others. It's purely an opninion.
For me, I wouldn't tie with one. If they halter has enoug pressure to break, then it would be safer for the horse to break, whereas a nek rop could hang them if they slipped. But then again, so could a halter, if it didn't break.
How about just fix the pulling back problem before tying serially?
I guess hundreds of amish in our neck of the woods must be wrong. Every single one of them uses a neck rope. They don't own cars, they take horse and buggey to town to shop, to church, to the market and leave the horse harnessed and buggy still attached and leave the horse standing while they shop and believe me some of them are not well mannered. Every one wears a neck tie.
But then your situation is different. You want your horse to break free.

When is it all right for a horse to break free?? How do you fix a problem if you let is happen. TRain all you want and sometime, somewhere the horse will try, something really frightens him and he tries. Yours breaks free and runs off, mine remains tied.
     
    04-28-2010, 08:41 PM
  #29
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Originally Posted by ridergirl23    
Those are cool! I've neer heard of those! In my area we use rope halters, If you get the right rope halter they don't break, and when the hrose pulls back, they apply more and more pressure to the poll, and some even put some 'bite' in the nose, so they learn that its to uncomfortable to pull back.
You pull on the pol and my neck rope pulls a couple of inches lower down?? What is the difference?? A couple of inches.

My neck rope is 5/8th soft rope, every part of it unbreakable. Is your halter that tuff, is the lead rope that strong??
Mine cost under $15 and easy to make. I don't buy them.
     
    04-28-2010, 08:48 PM
  #30
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Originally Posted by RiosDad    
You pull on the pol and my neck rope pulls a couple of inches lower down?? What is the difference?? A couple of inches.

My neck rope is 5/8th soft rope, every part of it unbreakable. Is your halter that tuff, is the lead rope that strong??
Mine cost under $15 and easy to make. I don't buy them.
haha ya, they pretty much to apply the same pressure.
Yes, it is, Just like you, I have seen horses fight it until the point where I have to look away because I thought the horse broke one of its bones, and yet the halter is still in place, hasnt budged one bit, while the horse is throwing its weight every which way trying its hardest to break away. The only time I have seen one of my halters break was when my horse somehow got a bucket hooked to the halter and she ripped backwards as the bucket slammed her face, but that was my leather halter I got for 20$ (I wanted to kill her after that, that was a beautiful halter) but that was a leather halter.
     

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