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        08-08-2008, 11:50 PM
      #11
    Banned
    Curb bit? Curb chain?
    Both?

    The thing is that I don't want to force him into a headset and whatnot, I want to be able to just ask him and then he goes into it nicely and keeps it.

    Question: why wouldn't my western snaffle work? Just curious
         
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        08-09-2008, 12:07 AM
      #12
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    (yes can't ya tell I'm a Parelli freak now? Lol)
    I've been doing a little research and since Sonny is a LB Introvert the Parelli website suggested getting a bit with the maximum ammount of tounge relief...and they offer a Myler Bit and headstall....reallllllly pricey but I might see if my dad will help with it if I can't find something that's the same. Just my worries are Sonny won't take to the bit at all or it will make him hard mouthed cause I always believed that curb bits were harsh

    But I dunno....gah I'm sooo confused. I might just stick with my eggbutt lol

    Here is a picture of the bit that the Parelli website suggested
    http://www.saddleandtackwarehouse.co...6162359960.JPG

    Edit: or this one (without all the weird nosebands and such like the above)
    http://www.saddleandtackwarehouse.co...6162516393.JPG
         
        08-09-2008, 06:32 AM
      #13
    Green Broke
    That is the weirdest bit I have seen in a while o.0 I always found that its easier to teach a horse to neckrein with a curb. Look, this is what I ride my 5yr old in. I use a correction bit, but this is what I started off with before I moved to my rather harsh-looking bit I have now.



    My correction bit, but my shanks are longer and it doesn't have copper rollers


    He neck reins much better in my correction bit ;][/img]
         
        08-09-2008, 09:01 AM
      #14
    Banned
    Neckreining, IMO, shouldn't have to do anything with the bit...yes with the shanks you definitely can't direct rein like you can with an eggbutt snaffle or the other english bits, but if a horse can neckrein in an english bit then he definitely could in a western.

    I think I was just expecting more than what Sonny could give me at that time. He's picking it up really nice now and I'm pleased with the progress....I am thinking of buying a curb bit, but here is my one problem:
    My sister thinks that she's just as good as rider as I am (and not saying I'm a good rider hehe) last time she rode him I was going to switch bits since I had my shanks in back to the eggbutt, but she said it was fine, so I left them in (I regret it now)...but she wouldn't stop yanking on his mouth!
    So I'm thinking that until she can get a better hand for riding I could keep the eggbutt in (still can buy the shanks just have to take it off the bridle every time).

    I'm going to suck you the $130 and just buy the Parelli one...and if I'm lucky my dad will chip in lol

    Thanks for your help Delete!!!

    Also what makes it REALLLLLLLY hard is that at the old barn my instructor kinda messed me up so when I ask Sonny to turn at a trot, he occasionally takes off in a canter. So now I have to retrain him to an easier way to go into a canter, and unteach him the way I originally used...and also get the bugs out of me with the old trainer.
         
        08-10-2008, 01:28 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    Im just saying he neckreins better in his western bit.

    You welcome =]
         
        08-10-2008, 03:29 PM
      #16
    Banned
    Here is the bit that I have been using within the last two days for Sonny. I'm going to buy myself one. He's doing okay in it, but really likes it. He's accepting the bit better (putting it in his mouth) and it doesn't seem like it's bothering him at all which is good





    Any idea where I can get a bit that's the same thing? I don't care how the shanks are (though I do like the curves), but I just want the mouthpiece to be the same
         
        08-10-2008, 03:37 PM
      #17
    Super Moderator
    I like that bit better than the other one you were using. I found a version that is close but it's very expensive. I KNOW we can find something closer to the $30 range...

    http://www.rods.com/p/4998,123_Myler...by-Toklat.html
         
        08-10-2008, 03:42 PM
      #18
    Super Moderator
    Part of why you are using a harsher bit western is because you have almost no reign contact, which means you are using the teensiest slightest bit of a comand right? You have to have a harsher bit for them to even FEEL you...

    Did you say you've never tried draw reigns or you prefer not to? I can't remember?
         
        08-10-2008, 03:49 PM
      #19
    Banned
    It's close, but I'd like the port a little wider and maybe not as tall, but I'm fine with that height.

    Yeah cheap as possible, but I do want sweet iron!
         
        08-10-2008, 03:50 PM
      #20
    Super Moderator
    I'll keep looking around... That is what I am using on Riley in my lessons too... I'm going to have to buy one too when he comes home... teehee...
         

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