I don't even know where to start! Any trainer that would put an inexperienced horse owner on a horse she is already having trouble with, BAREBACK no less, is nuts!!!!! Just her getting on a horse she doesn't know , bareback, outdoors in snow, she is out of her gourd!
That horse has SOOOOOOOOOO many wholes in his training you shouldn't even be on his back yet, let alone riding him bareback!
It all sounds amusing and like a game of tough guy and seeing if you can make him stand still (never heard of that. That is the biggest bunch of hogwash I have heard of) for a minute, but the truth is one of you may get hurt soon.
YOu could see how your friend handled him on the lead that he needs good leadership and to go back to the basics to fill in all the gaps in his training.
The fact that you are in for the longhaul is admirable and I think you will be a really great owner for him in time. But he needs to learn manners in the safety of a round pen or small paddock, and not all at once. Start small and build on it. This is where some understanding of the concepts of Join UP come in handy. Getting your horse to let go of his mental obsession with the herd and look to you to be something so compelling that he will give you his attention.
He sounds like a powerful horse and such animals can be hard to get to give you their respect, but once he does, he will be formidable! (in a good way)
WOW! Y'all are TOUGH!
I was looking for some more of maybe POSITIVE FEEDBACK! lol.
Thanks for your feedback, but I must say, I LOVE my trainer.You might think she is crazy, but she isnt afraid of getting bucked.She also wasnt phased by his behavior. The fact that she was so calm the whole time taught me a lot. She has been riding since three and her father ownes and breeds horses for a living...She breaks and trains horses( has worked under KC Pierce and Stacy Westfall-I am SURE all of you know them...
) and is a barrel racer. I appreciate your concern though!( My trainer before also let me get on him bareback and we never had problems either, but then again, we were aways in a ring!But my old trainer also never fed my horse, nor did any ground work! She only rode him as his "training" Not one ounce of ground work!)
He would have bucked me off if he wanted me off during this ride....
I didnt just get lucky- cause I have ridden him many times bareback and with just a rope around his neck! I AM CRAZY ARENT I? ( I mean that in a joking way) Are y'all gonna tell me I was crazy to put 2 of my 3 children on his back bareback for our xmas picture???
I agree though that he should have been lunged on a line, not how she free lunges her horses....he has never done that before and he didnt know what she expected from him...
By the way, charlie has not been ridden in 6 weeks!( advice per new trainer--she wanted to only do groundwork first!) He has only had groundwork! And hasnt shown any negative behavior until this past week. We are thinking he is showing this behavior because he was FINALLY accepted into his new herd and is moving up in rank.Plus, he had almost a week off with no training due to snow storm and trainer's horse at hospital and my husband off in London with no one to take care of the kiddies!
The reason, I think, she wanted him to stand for a minute was because he was being so impatient...she wanted him to respect the fact that we were standing and talking to eachother, and he needed to wait.
But, he did not want to wait!
And I think she got off with the buck because she knew he was uncomfortable- it wasnt like she flew off and rolled in the snow, it was more of a graceful buck
Like she jumped to the side or something- i dont know, it all happened so fast
I didnt even notice the buck, but she told me she felt his back end go up a bit...she wasnt phased at all! She was riding on top of his jacket...I am not sure if she was even holding on
We had already walked so far without any issues! I think it was the trotting up hill part that he didnt like.
He is fed strategy. twice a day, along with omega grande as his supplement. He has hay in front of his face all day long pretty much-- i think its 30% alfalfa, something and then something else...I cant remember....He gained 130 pounds in 5 weeks!
The last place I had him he was so mistreated, here its like he lives at a spa!
If anyone has anything good to say, I would love to hear it! I like the idea of the rope halter...and round pen, join-up- my trainer and I spoke about this afterwards- he needs a smaller area to train...Any ideas how to get him to not be so worried about the herd?? I know I could ask my trainer all of this, but I thought of asking other people too, its always good to ask more than one!...Thanks for all of your positive feedback