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    10-13-2010, 08:35 PM
  #1
Yearling
Need alternative to eggbutt snaffle

My boy is not doing awesome in his broken eggbutt snaffle. I can't manage to get much contact with his mouth without him bobbing his head. If I hold my hands in a normal position he doesn't like it at all...if I spread my hands out he drops his head and gets right on the bit. It feels like to me that the one break in the middle is pinching his mouth to much and he's not happy with it. He has always had a very soft mouth. He goes fantastically in a hackamore.

He's in this, no copper.
Korsteel Copper Mouth Eggbutt Snaffle - Statelinetack.com

I have tried this and he hates it
Korsteel French Link Eggbutt Snaffle Bit - Statelinetack.com

Will getting a bit with no break help this problem?

Was thinking this
Myler Level 1 Loose Ring Wide Barrel Snaffle Bit - Statelinetack.com

Or mullen mouth?
     
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    10-14-2010, 02:54 AM
  #2
Started
Just out of curiosity, have you tried a loose ring bit. It has a little bit more movement than an eggbutt on the cheek pieces. It might be worth it to try a Dr. Bristol mouthpiece bit, the middle section is a bit wider than a french link which lays it a bit different on the tongue. A mullen mouth bit may help, but I don't think he'll be as soft in it. It sounds to me like maybe the bit is a bit too big for his mouth. Have you tried him in something like the loose ring that's a bit thinner through the mouth. That might solve the problem. A mullen mouth or straight bar may also help but I don't think he'll be as soft in it. Since I started with my dressage trainer about 9 years ago, I've ridden all the horses since in some version of the loose ring french link bit, and they have all done great. Hope you find something that works.
     
    10-14-2010, 06:06 AM
  #3
Weanling
There is a pinchless version of the eggbut out there. The center part where its linked up twists. I really like it. It might also help if you get a double or even triple jointed mouth piece.

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    10-14-2010, 07:01 AM
  #4
Showing
My mares seem to prefer lorentzo to everything I tried (although they were OK with french link too): Korsteel Oval Mouth Eggbutt - Statelinetack.com (although I'd go for the copper one like this one: Mikmar Bit Company that's what I use personally).
     
    10-14-2010, 08:44 AM
  #5
Yearling
The bit could very well be to thick for him, never even thought of that!

Thanks for the suggestions. I am going to look into them and try some out.
     
    10-14-2010, 02:19 PM
  #6
Weanling
My QH mare prefers a loose ring french link snaffle. I ride western and neck rein with it and she does very well in it.
     
    10-14-2010, 06:05 PM
  #7
Foal
Try just a straight bar snaffle
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    10-14-2010, 06:30 PM
  #8
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I like your idea of the loose ring Myler barrel snaffle. They aren't very thick, they have the loose ring action (I love loose ring because your hand to bit orientation stays more accurate no matter where thehorse sets their head and it disallows them to lean on it as easily as D bits, though I also use D bits just fine, too)
I think you will like that Myler bit! Be sure it is wide enough, and when in doubt, err on the side of a tiny bit too wide as opposed to the opposite. Sorry if I am telling you something you already know.
     
    10-17-2010, 09:47 AM
  #9
Yearling
Ok, I picked up two bits

All copper korsteel loose ring with two breaks
JP KORSTEEL Copper Oval Link Loose Ring Snaffle Bit | My Breyer Horses

And Stubben EZ control D-ring. I think this bit is really interesting because it locks into place when straight and does not give any pinching action.

He does considerably better in both and got right on them without hesitation. I do notice he holds himself a little higher in the stubben and goes low and more relaxed in the loose ring. But he was allot more responsive to the stubben. I am going to try them both a few more times with him.
     
    10-18-2010, 12:36 PM
  #10
Trained
Many young horses need you to spread your hands at first. It changes the feel and they can also see your hands. Keep practicing and don't look for a bit to solve your problems. Reward the slightest try and soon the horse will figure out what you want and you will no longer have to spread your hands. You are on the horses timetable not the other way around.
     

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