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        06-30-2012, 09:26 PM
      #31
    Yearling
    Cherie & Sorrelhorse are right and mever worry about jumping off when he is dangerous. Just get off and make him move his butt like you are a liion who is about to eat him. Work him hard and with intensity! When he is sweating and puffing like an old geezer, get back on and allow him to walk forward in the direction you want. Be sweet and calm like nothing happened
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        06-30-2012, 09:30 PM
      #32
    Yearling
    Cherie & Sorrelhorse are right and they always are.

    Also, Never worry about jumping off when a horse is dangerous. People worry that you are rewarding the horse for bad behavior, but you can make it unpleasant. Just get off and make him move his butt like you are a liion who is about to eat him. Work him hard and with intensity! When he is sweating and puffing like an old geezer, get back on and allow him to walk forward in the direction you want. Be sweet and calm like nothing happened
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        06-30-2012, 10:12 PM
      #33
    Yearling
    My former trail horse tried this..... we had tried the backing and the circling but she still tried it once in a while. We did nearly 100% road riding in a semi-agricultural and residential neighborhood so I really needed to be safe. My farrier, who is a no-nonsense cowboy type, said that he would whup her a$$. One meaningful tap with the crop and we were done. She tested me one more time and I used the over and under that another poster recommended. It did not take much force but it was firm and she got the point. I don't usually like to whack my horses, but this is dangerous. This, biting and kicking will get a firm response from me with a certain amount of pain involved, just to leave the impression there might be more pain involved if the behavior continues.
         
        06-30-2012, 10:28 PM
      #34
    Showing
    I wonder if his previous owner rode him with right reins so when he gets "stuck" he had learned going backwards gives him release?

    If that's the case then doing nothing would probably not help while he's backing up.. maybe when he's standing still or going forward.

    Can you have someone lunge you?
         
        06-30-2012, 11:58 PM
      #35
    Weanling
    No I cannot, Sky. :/ Makes me wish Nancy had just told me his price. I'd of owned him sooner and had proper riding areas and training tools... or this just wouldn't have happened period.

    I'm not sure what happened to him when we were apart. I have went as far as hopping off and kicking his belly (I was officially done fooling around after he slipped and almost fell backwards down a hill). It worked, but only for like, five minutes. Eventually, I was so worked up that after giving him a piece of my mind on the ground, I just road him forward for a few steps and dismounted to avoid further problems.

    The last time I road him, we went up one road and he fought me like this randomly after about 10-15 minutes of a good ride. I gave up after 20-30 minutes of fighting. I allowed him to go back the way he wanted to go, but instead of turning left to go home at the corner, I took him right. Road him for an hour or so with basically no issues except being scared of the lines on a bridge, which was absolutely nothing to fix (I just squeezed him through it like you would over a jump).

    I'm not sure where this is coming from or what the deal is. I'm wondering if these fits aren't why she was so quick to sell him.
         
        07-01-2012, 12:07 AM
      #36
    Showing
    I'm thinking you need to have a professional trainer step in and help you. The expense will be worth it in the end so long as he stops this habit.
         
        07-01-2012, 01:02 AM
      #37
    Weanling
    Yeah, I'm thinking if the advice given doesn't help, that's what will happen.
         
        07-01-2012, 01:34 AM
      #38
    Showing
    Just be careful :/ it could turn into something worse. Be safe!
         
        07-01-2012, 01:59 AM
      #39
    Weanling
    I will. I announced to my mom and bf that if my efforts seem useless, I'll be hiring a trainer.
         
        07-01-2012, 01:59 AM
      #40
    Weanling
    When I first got my horse Putts, he was almost the same way, except he would rear on his way backwards... Not anymore!
    You have gotten a lot of good advice, but here's my two cents:
    You just gotta be a little mean when you don't get what you want (when it comes to buddysour horses, anyway).. Obviously not abusive, but assertive. Stop making excuses for him and be assertive, I know you can!
    A buddy sour horse is a spoiled one. Kind of like the little kid in a toy store throwing a fit because mom wont buy him the toy. If you keep letting him get what he wants, that's all he is ever going to do and he will become even more dangerous.
    If he throws a little fit, throw a little fit back at him. Circle him, do whatever you can to KEEP HIS FEET MOVING IN A FORWARD MOTION, even if you need to spank him a few times or do 176889612346 tiny little circles, or maybe even get off and lunge a little when the going gets tough.. You make the decisions. Not the horse.
    When it comes to dangerous habits like that, you've got to cure them quick if you don't want to get hurt!
    Good luck! I hope I helped a little!
         

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