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post #11 of 18 Old 01-04-2011, 08:00 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah, the field is plenty large enough to move him parallel to the barn instead of toward and away from it. It is how I work out barn sour issues when they come up. He's not particularly thrilled with that exercise. He tries to be subtle but always tries to drift toward the barn while traveling parallel to it. It's excellent for establishing outside rein contact! I was going to try this all again on Friday if the snowstorm that's coming isn't too bad. Thanks for all the input.

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post #12 of 18 Old 01-05-2011, 10:12 PM
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I'm not sure how applicable this will be to you and your horse, but I thought I'd just throw it out there.

I had a friend who had a pony who was slightly green. He got into the habit of taking off with her when they rode outside, especially when they were headed towards the barn. He wanted to go back and he was determined. There was no way she could outfight him so she'd take him back to the barn, hand gallop him around the arena for several laps both ways, then head out again. Every time he started to run off, back to the barn they'd go and she'd work his tail off. It didn't take long before he was being ridden in the field without any problems.

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post #13 of 18 Old 01-05-2011, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
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I'm kind of doing that same thing. I decided to use this to find where the holes are in our training. There are obviously some or this would not be an issue. Today I worked him in the ring and made him accountable for every step. We trotted around on the bit and I made the necessary corrections as he tried his full arsenal of evasive manuevers. I didn't have time to take the show out into the fields, but I will try on Friday and see how what we've tweaked so far translates into out there. Thanks for the input.

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post #14 of 18 Old 01-05-2011, 10:36 PM
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I have a hard time in the winter as well. Mine doesn't know what to do with all her pent up energy and gets a little crazy....pretty typical for winter behavior

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post #15 of 18 Old 01-05-2011, 10:59 PM
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If you have decent 'steering' I would say if he 'jumps' into a canter on the trail, just keep him in it, and do all sorts of fig. 8, serpentines, etc...when he is more 'relaxed' at doing that then drop back down to a walk, and try the trot again. Keep doing that until he decides moving into a trot is a better idea. My mare can get pretty "foward" on the trails too, and doing some work that "takes her breath" away, makes her want to chill out and relax and do what I want. She's not so forward as your guy sounds though.

I do agree with working him first in a more controlled environment; atleast then if he does get so excited that he unseats you, he can't get away. There is nothing wrong with working in a safe environment to get the willies out...and I would rather know the horse is calm, and listening to me, before going out, than to go out, and have a terrible ride because the horse is so full of himself he can't help but act like a dork. My mare has been starting out kind of goofy, but I just do a bit of groundwork, and a little riding at home, before heading down the road...works like a charm, and I leave on a calm thinking horse, rather than a hyped up goofy one.

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The steering is still there. Hell the brakes even work, just not until a good amount of galloping, kicking out and head twisting have occurred! He's like a little kid that just heard he's going to Disney World. He just can't contain himself. He's just running through my aids and giving me the finger in 72 point pica. Sounds like everyone's on the same page about how to address it, so we'll just keep on the same path...hopefully not at 40 mph. It's like riding on the outside of an Amtrack train.

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post #17 of 18 Old 01-05-2011, 11:34 PM
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I hear you on the 'greased lighting' feeling...my mare got a little fresh with me on the trail the other day...I'm just glad she has the sense to not buck, or spook, or that kind of stuff, cause I wouldn't want to have to walk all the way back to the barn!

Especially if it's just in the cooler weather, I don't think it's as huge of a 'respect' issue as you think...I think you just may have to take some more time warming him up, to get those willies out; no matter how broke a horse is, the chilly weather can make them quite fresh...hard work is what gets them thinking again, atleast on that particular day. I'm not afraid to make my mare sweat if necessary in the cooler weather, because I CAN blanket also, if necessary, until she's dry. One has to remember that being in motion is how a horse stays warm in cold weather, so that can explain alot about how 'goofy' they can be at times, as well. Not that it's an excuse, of course, and you have to work through the crazies until you are satisfied with the outcome, but it's just something to think about.

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post #18 of 18 Old 01-06-2011, 01:41 PM
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I saw a horse last winter who was doing the same things. Working before going out was excelent, except when I was too tired from hanging in there.

Turns out he had back pain, and the cold weather makes it worse, so he would take off anytime it hurt.

I solved the back problem, I solved the behaviour problem. ;) check his back for signs of pain, and apply a mild massage on it every day before going out. Ride him a little on the arena, then go out.

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