Originally Posted by a saddened cowgirl View Post
Again I will never go and whip the **** out of mine or any other horse with the end of a lead rope! I hate when people do that and when I see people do that to their horse it makes me want to rip the horse from their hands and whip the person with the rope till they stop like the horse would! It only causes them to be afraid of you! And same when they yank on the horses head more then 2-3 good time. Its rediculous! You don't get any where with force! Its teaching the horse and the only thing I haven't tried to get her to back off me (besides abuse) is holding the lead father out. I've pushed on her, I've made her back till she almost trips and id hold something so she pokes her self. And with the kicking you could just be standing there with her in reach and yell at her like yourmad and she will kick out at you and I've even carried a short lunge whip and have whipped herwhen she tried doing that and it didn't faze her at all. Trust me she is a horse like no other. I've trained at least 30 horses to the point of breaking them out and I've broke at least 10 I've never came across a horse like this one. BUT I will NEVER whip my horse with a lead rope to the point its almost running backwords to get away. That's NOT training that is putting fear into a horse!
No one is saying you should beat or whip the horse like that.
Ok. So you say she is sensitive but you've also used a whip with her that had no affect. I think she has figured you out so she gets out of work. She has realized that you won't make her do what you want. She has gained the leadership role in your relationship. A sensitive horse will flee with sudden movements of yourself, a rope or whip. I've dealt and am dealing with some. You need to desensitize them to your tools or show them that they don't need to fear them. However, they also need to learn to respect those same tools in that you will use them IF necessary.
If you were to turn a sensitive horse out in a new herd, the herd will not go, "Oh, this horse is sensitive. We need to be nice and not bite or kick it. We need to coddle it to make it feel better and welcome." They would treat it like any other horse. That's what you need to do. You may need to take smaller steps with her or break things down and go slower. That doesn't mean you can't correct or discipline her.
When leading her, you can't hold her at 4 inches and expect her to stand 2 feet away. If someone is pulling your hair, what would you do? You could try pulling away but that causes discomfort. So you try to stay close enough that you hair doesn't get pulled. Same goes for leading her. You hold her at 4 inches so she has learned that she feels less pressure being close to you. When you stop her, she follows that "rule" of stay close. Now you decide you want the rules to change and she is to stand away from you. She gets confused with the inconsistencies.
I don't know what your definition of NH is since there is no specific definition. If you believe it is horse whispering, horse kisses, rainbow farts, and never ever hitting a horse, good luck with that. It just might have worked with the horses you've dealt with so far. She needs something different. No method works on all horses. You need to be able to adapt to the horse and that might include popping the horse once in a while.
You say we should never force a horse. If so, we would never get them to work for us or carry us. We use pressure or force to get them to move, and so do other horses. We use the release of pressure or force to teach them. Unless you are telepathic, I really don't see how you could not use force with horses. Posted via Mobile Device