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post #11 of 17 Old 04-15-2008, 12:33 PM
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You can find some of the 7 games on Youtube.
Like this one for instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRLPL4Q7avM
and even this might help ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzVJD1ckrqg

You can also get some cheap used DvD's on ebay if you are interested. Dont just think Parelli - his are probably more $$$'s

Check out John Lyons & Clinton Anderson (my favorite) too.


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post #12 of 17 Old 04-15-2008, 12:43 PM
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I found out Clinton Anderson works really good with such bossy horses. His methods are rather harsh, but in situations like pulling/disrespect/etc. it really works. You can find tons of used dvds on eBay rather cheap.
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post #13 of 17 Old 04-15-2008, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
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I found out Clinton Anderson works really good with such bossy horses. His methods are rather harsh, but in situations like pulling/disrespect/etc. it really works. You can find tons of used dvds on eBay rather cheap.
im not looking to really spend money because i think ive decided to still sell her, but i would just like her to be at least better so when people come and see her she wont be leading me like she has been do you think if i brought her out and walked her every time i went to see her and worked on stop, back, walk, turn you think shell at least get the point. i just remembered thats what i did with my old gelding and he eventually got the point.
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post #14 of 17 Old 04-15-2008, 03:25 PM
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even though in a strength against strength challenge a horse can win, but you, who would be the lead mare, should put up the best fight as you can.

In the wild the lead mare does NOT tolerate any bad behavior...the minute one steps out of line she bites them or kicks them....no warnings, no I'm sorries, and no thinking. That is how she stays as lead mare. You've got to take the place of lead mare and put Ginger in her place.

The minute she pulls on the lead rope, turn her in a circle...and keep doing it until she listens.
What I did with Sonny, who is a wanderer while I lead (he'll wander from one side to the other than in front of me and then in back of me) is that I'd twirl the end of the lead rope infront of me...so if he got too close he gets hit by the lead rope...it's not cruel IMO...he's the one that is getting himself hit...all I did was twirl it.

Don't let your horse graze while leading. It will cause bad habits later on. I do not let Sonny graze while I lead him unless I'm leading him for his enjoyment and not to go up to the arena, back to his pasture, or to do ground work in an open pasture.

I'd definately buy a rope halter. They are pretty inexpensive and can do wonders. I always use a rope halter for Sonny now. He responds alot better to them than a regular halter.

Good luck!
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post #15 of 17 Old 04-16-2008, 01:18 AM
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Gee, I let my horses graze all the time and none of them have bad habits They all respect the fact that when I say time to go, it's really time to move on. They have great manners, even if I walk them across a REALLY good bunch of grass.

While teaching my new horse to respect my asking him to come along, he had the attitude of "Whatever, I'm ignoring you." So I put a feel on the lead rope, not pulling or jerking, just a steady feel, and if he didn't respond within a reasonable amount of time I tagged him with my stick on the butt, then walked on as if nothing happened. I gave him plenty of time to respond and before I tagged him I made it VERY obvious it was coming. If I don't have a stick, I use my lead rope and I'll throw it behind his drive line to cause him to go forward.

Now I have no problems at all. I never once jerked on him, yelled at him, or got aggressive. It's just not needed to correct an issue like this. It's actually very simple to fix.

One thing you may want to consider.......ususally when people deem the horse NEVER to graze, either while leading or riding, it's usually those horses who fight the handler so much for the grass. If you use the grass as incentive, or at least allow the horse to graze some as long as you have the communication established so he knows to come along when you ask, then your problems will be greatly diminished.

Like I said, I always let my horses graze and I don't have any problems with them. If they give me what I ask, then it's only right to give back to them.
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post #16 of 17 Old 04-16-2008, 07:44 AM
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I'm sorry, Spirit, but I'd disagree. Letting or not horse to graze a lot depends on horse. My qh horse considers the permission to graze as weakness on my side (btw my paint is not like that at all) and done once look for every moment to pull me down. She is not very typical (unfortunately) comparing to good number of horses I worked with at the sales barn, but that's what it is. I can handle it, but sometime my mom or dad has to lead her and it became rather dangerous. She started to behave MUCH better and respectful to the lead person after I stopped letting her graze and she knows it's forbidden.

I also did try to lead her, than let her graze only when allowed and all those suggestions from books and articles. It did NOT work at all on her (usual discussion that any method doesn't work on all horses ).
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post #17 of 17 Old 04-16-2008, 12:12 PM Thread Starter
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she was much better yesterday. thanks for all the tips. you can read about it in this forum. i think the title says im so proud or something.
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