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        07-30-2010, 05:33 PM
    Where are you located? Is there anything fast about him? You said in another thread he was older? Is he just a slow going kind of guy no matter where he is?

    Personally, I do not think the spin him in circles, jerk him this way and that, and kick and use the crop to beat him forward is the right way to go. There are better ways.

    IMO, I think you need to work on getting forward movement from the ground. You said he would go forward "a little". I would work on getting him to move away from you on the ground. Does he lunge? Can you ground drive him? You could possibly incorporate a blinker hood once you get him going from the ground(make sure you incorporate verbal commands with the physical cues, like a cluck or "Walk On") so that he will have to listen to you.

    Also, if you are incapable of training him, have you considered hiring someone?
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        07-31-2010, 07:02 PM
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    Originally Posted by draftrider    
    Jynx made a kind of sissy buck there MM. :P
    Haha, I know, she's pulled some doozies round penning but I've yet to experience one from in the saddle! Thus far her forte seems to be bolting when something scares her - we're working on that one now.
        08-01-2010, 12:33 AM
    If he doesn't want to go forward, make him go backwards. When he does a few steps backwards, stop, then ask for forwards again. If he refuses, go backwards. Continue until he realizes its much easier just to go forwards.
        08-01-2010, 06:50 AM
    Do you have a little more background on the horse? Is this a young horse that is figuring things out, or an old horse that has just learned to respond to the person on the ground and ignore the rider?

    Teaching any cue has to do with timing, consistency, and release. With my young ones, I usually start from the ground. I always use the same cue for walk, same cue for trot, and same cue for canter. That goes for physical and vocal cues. When you are doing ground work, imagine your line as your rein aid and your whip as your leg aid. It is very important that you are behind the horses drive line. Start with a vocal command, then follow through with using the whip lightly. I start with tapping right where the leg would be, and for a horse really lacking forward, I will move to the hind end. Increase pressure gradually and continue rhythmically with the whip until he makes the slightest effort forward, and then release all pressure and praise. Every time you do this, he will respond sooner and sooner and if you are consistent, he will begin to respond to the voice. Start expecting more as far as how long he maintains his walk and what kind of effort he puts into his walk.

    When you transfer this to the rider position, use the same vocal cue, the same timing between vocal and leg (immediate, less than 3 seconds), and carry a crop at first for the same reinforcement if he does not respond to the leg.
        08-03-2010, 09:44 AM
    To me it sounds like he probably spent some time at a hack stable somewhere along the way. Those horses are particularly tough to rehab, but it can be done. I'd start from the ground up, and re-do EVERYTHING very very consistently. Those horses wear rough bits and ride through untrained hands everyday, making your job of providing a clear signal all the more difficult, if he was ever introduced to the concept of a signal at all. Your horse probably just thinks he's being a good boy by ignoring you and maintaining a safe speed. If this is the case, I'm not sure more "motivation" is always the right the answer. Two words: round pen.

    Of you could sell him as a boyfriend/husband horse for those of us with less than talented partners! :o)

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