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        09-10-2007, 08:51 PM
    Need help or I'm gettin out.

    Hello,never posted before.I mostly read and learn what I can, but now I have a big problem. New to horses and bought a spotted saddle horse to trail ride. He's an 8 yr old gelding that is very soft--as in can flex his nose back to my knee all day and stops ,turns, and backs wondrefully.I can even shoot a rifle off him and barely flinches.Loads good and all the necassary stuff. Problem is he wants to run if another horse gets next to him or in front of him. I have to hold him back constantly when riding with others. I can leave him in a loose rein for about 20 secs and then he starts picking up speed until he's at a run . No fun at all. In my mind a horse shouldn't get faster until I cue him to. Is there anything I can do? I dearly love him,but if I can't correct this I'll have to get rid of him. That will probably end my jaunt with horses. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanx.
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        09-10-2007, 09:10 PM

    Its just the horses instinct, to run if the rest of the horses are running. Although because he isn't in the wild now, and he has a rider on his back he has to obay your commands. Try turning him in a circle and ride him off in a different direction. He will soon learn. If you feel quite unsafe doing this, get another more expirenced rider to do it for you.

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        09-10-2007, 09:56 PM
    I forgot to tell ya that I do one reined stops with him about 20 times each day and it really helped slow him down and be more controllable by himself,but with other horses it doesn't matter. I can't ever ride with a loose rein.
        09-10-2007, 10:04 PM
    Have you taken any lessons on or before him?
        09-11-2007, 11:58 AM
    No, no training. Just what I've learned on the trail and from other riders. I read and watck as much as I can though.
        09-11-2007, 05:48 PM
    Personally I would have a friend who has a good horse ride with you, start in front during the ride and ask your friend to come up next to you and back off again. Keep repeating this and start having her ride past your horse, pass her again. If you do it for very short increments at first and work your way up to letting her horse next to and in front of yours he will start to understand that he is all right back there. This won't happen in a day. Any kind of training is going to take a lot of time and work.
    Also in my opinion, your horse does not respect you as the leader. If I were you I would do a lot of ground work with him, leading, lounging, personal space work.
    You should also be doing more work in the saddle. When he wants to go forward faster than you want you need to make him really work. Trot him in circles, make him back up, disengage his hind end. Have your friend wait for you while you are doing this. After time if he still gets in a hurry to be in front I would make him trot in the other direction until he was very tired.
    Good luck!! And remember your not going to get this over night and if this is enough to make you want to give up I would recommend you find yourself a well finished horse that is going to help you build your confidence and patience.
        09-12-2007, 08:57 AM
    You are right, I don't think he respects me. I am going to work on that. I just needed to hear if this was correctable or not. If I can fix the problem I will. He si a gaited horse and rides very smooth, just fast sometimes. When I'm riding by myself he is very well behaved, so I know he knows how to listen to me. My friend says he's gaited and that's what they do and Ican't change him to only pick up the pace when I tell him to---I have a hard time believing that.
        09-12-2007, 06:36 PM
    I too have a gaited horse and he also walks much faster than my other horses. I let him walk at his own pace because I enjoy a fast walk. But, If I ask him to slow down or there is a horse in front of us he doesn't try to run in front of the other, since his walk is faster he will end up in the lead but not from pulling my arms off.
    My question is... does he walk fast and end up in front or is he being a butt head and running to get in front?
    If he is just walking faster than the other horses you will have more difficulty slowing him down because this is his natural gait. I would let it go that you have a fast horse, he is not being naughty, just himself.
    If he is jerking and trying to run that is another story.
    Please let me know which it is.
        09-12-2007, 09:26 PM
    No , he is not walking fast and getting in front. I too enjoy the powerful stides in Red's walk, and I don't mind ending up in front of everyone because of it. When he senses another horse walking faster than him or sees another ahead he instantly stiffens his neck and tries to catch up and pass them. Next thing you know I'm holding him back from a full run or a least a good lope. I rode him today after some ground work to gain some respect from him and he did great, but we rode by ourselves. He would walk and only get up into his gait when I asked. I think this is the result of tons of one reined stops when he would try to speed up without being cued to. I f I could only get him to calm down around other riders so I can felax and enjoy the ride.
        09-12-2007, 09:41 PM
    Ok that helps alot.
    I really think that riding with someone would really help. I think that is the only way that you are going to solve this. It will take some time and lots of rides with a very patient friend.
    Good luck and don't give up.

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