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        01-09-2008, 09:01 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Need help! please-any advice or ideas

    My pony who is usually pretty calm and easy going has recently done a complete turn around. At my barn she starts off dead quiet (too quiet) and then depending on her mood will remain completely dead or start taking off (full galloping) the minute we begin to jump. .
    Also at an indoor show a week or two ago she was very nrevous(I think) schooling in the morning and when we went in the ring we did all of the horse strides!(she is a medium pony).
    I ride her every day and sometimes lunge, she is turned out for most of the day every day. I have no idea what to do. ANY SUGGESTIONS WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!
    THANK YOU
         
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        01-09-2008, 09:03 PM
      #2
    Started
    Sounds like your horse is having respect issues....???
         
        01-10-2008, 12:20 AM
      #3
    Started
    The fact that she starts out "too quiet" and then explodes makes me think that she is introverted in her behavior, as in she holds her tension and anxiety inside and doesn't show it, so she seems "quiet" and "obediant" but really she is scared. Then when the pressure becomes too much for her to handle she explodes.

    If that is the case, you need to back up and go slow with her. Make sure your foundation is REALLY GOOD and that she trusts you completely.

    If that is the case, this is not a respect issue. It's a fear issue.
         
        01-11-2008, 08:13 PM
      #4
    Showing
    My mare used to get too excited (stupidly excited) when it came time to jump as well, so here are a few exercises I would suggest to get her to slow down around her course:
    - set up one or two verticals with about 4 strides in between them.
    1) Trot or canter over the first vertical, then ask your horse to stop. If she takes too long to stop, then make her back up, then turn around and go to the same fence again, jump it, then stop, turn, jump, stop, turn, jump, stop... you get the idea. Once she starts anticipating the stop, then you can continue onwards to the next jump, then stop, and praise her. Whenever she gets "rushy" then make her stop and jump the same jump a few times.
    2) Trot or canter up to the first fence, jump it, and instead of continuing on to the next fence, turn a circle - you can do this a couple of ways: turn a large 20m circle so you come back to the same fence, or turn a small circle (just to break up the line). Then you can continue on to the next fence.
    3) Trot to the first fence, then circle (small) until your horse comes back to a trot, then trot to the next fence.

    Basically you need to get her to slow down and think about what she's doing - if she continues to rush, she won't be able to collect herself to do higher jumps.

    If she won't stop rushing, I would seriously recommend taking a few months to half a year off of jumping, and concentrate on your flatwork - I.e. Dressage. I know it sounds boring, but I did that with my little mare and it worked absolute wonders.

    If I think of more exercises, I'll post them. Best of luck.
         
        01-11-2008, 08:22 PM
      #5
    Weanling
    Give her something to think about, so she doesn't put thought into being nervous. Start with a really strong foundation- groundwork.. and work your way back up to jumping. When you start jumping again, setup a gymnastic.

    http://showrider.com/showrider/jumperridingtips2.htm
    Read "the quick horse".. it brings out very good points.. If your horse is rushing through jumps- but moderately quiet.. There may be something YOU'RE doing (i.e. Landing hard, not enough release, etc.) and she tries to make it go away as fast as possible. If that is the case, I would work on strengthening my position.

    My horse likes to rush through jumps but I did a lot of gymnastic work with him, and it really seemed to help. With hindsight, I think my poor position played a role (I jumped ahead, and consequently landed hard).. My position is a lot better now, and so his stride!
         
        01-11-2008, 08:23 PM
      #6
    Weanling
    Forgot to add, gymnastics will help your position (if you concentrate on it).. So will bounce jumps.
         
        01-11-2008, 09:59 PM
      #7
    Yearling
    Have you had her checked out by a vet or chiro. It could very well be a case of being body sore, Especially given the fact that she doesn't get any days off. Even the most fit athlete's take a day off.

    What about you tack? As they become more fit and their body changes we need to be constantly ensuring our tack still fits them correctly.

    What about her feed? Working seven days a week, her calorie intake needs to be high or it could be a case of too much "hot" feed being given.

    When she starts running off with you what do you do?

    Are you working with a trainer? What advise have they given you?

    Sorry for all the questions, but you didn't give much information....
         
        01-12-2008, 04:34 AM
      #8
    Weanling
    Quote:
    The fact that she starts out "too quiet" and then explodes makes me think that she is introverted in her behavior, as in she holds her tension and anxiety inside and doesn't show it, so she seems "quiet" and "obediant" but really she is scared. Then when the pressure becomes too much for her to handle she explodes.

    If that is the case, you need to back up and go slow with her. Make sure your foundation is REALLY GOOD and that she trusts you completely.

    If that is the case, this is not a respect issue. It's a fear issue.
    I agree, its what came to my head also but you put it into words better than I could have, lol.


    Also how long have you had her? How does she usually act when she is in season? Has there been any big changes in her environment lately? For example moved home/stables, had a mate taken away any accidents when riding or in the paddock?
         
        01-13-2008, 10:18 AM
      #9
    Foal
    Sorry about not providing enough info
    1) I have been using the same tack on her (saddle, bridle, bit, and girth) for several months now.
    2) I am not completely sure about what her feed is( the barn where I board and train takes care of feeding). I do know she is turned out most of the day, gets fed in the p.m. And has hay at night when she is in.
    3) When she starts running off I try to to alternating half halts do she won't just pull against me. I also try to circle, but she sometimes will not listen when she takes off.
    4) I have been working with a trainer. She said to just hack or lunge for about an hour before we jump. However, she also does not want her to get overly fit, so that she will be able to continue running. It also might be the weather.
    5) I began leasing her in the middle of the summer(i think around July).

    Some other info. I don't know if it will help.
    1)Her ground manners have also gone downhill latley (i.e. She tries running me into her stall whenever I take her out).
    2) She used to be on hormones woth the last person who had her.
    3) She was basically perfect in the summer and fall and up until November.
    4) I usually ride her 5-6 days a week.
    5) We are riding in a very large indoor right now.
    6) She is very afraid of noises even with earplugs.

    Hope that this will help! Thank You!
         
        01-13-2008, 12:54 PM
      #10
    Showing
    My posts are notoriously long, so here's a short and sweet one:

    When your horse takes off with you, use one rein and run her into the wall (literally if need be). Arena walls are your friend when you're dealing with a young or flighty horse. Do this every time she takes off or you feel out of control - turn her nose right into the wall.
         

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