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post #1 of 64 Old 06-26-2011, 07:30 PM Thread Starter
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The Need for a Mentor

I've recognized the lack of mentors in forum members' horse lives for a long time, but thus far have only advised to find them in individual threads.

Now, I'm going to present my opinion across the board: amateurs shouldn't be in horses who have no recourse to mentors, qualified only by those who fortunately do succeed with dvd's & books alone; yet, proof is abundant that many don't succeed with teaching materials alone.

The horse owners who post their issues with their horses shouldn't be resorting to anonymous public forums filled with people of unknown qualifiedness! Instead, if their teaching materials aren't working for them, they need qualified horsemen to help them!

Plus, SINCE the qualifications of the forum advisers are unknown, the OP doesn't know whose advice to follow, anyway! The OP then decides to take the advice of what "sounds right"?

I'm tired of saying, "You really need a qualified horseman, in-the-flesh, to help you with your now-dangerous horse!" It's not even the lack of foresight in the humans that saddens me the most: it's that the horses are suffering for this lack of foresight!
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post #2 of 64 Old 06-26-2011, 07:36 PM
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*Raises hand*

I wish I had a mentor. My mentor passed away several years ago at the ripe old age of 88. Old racehorse trainer, probably had forgotten more than I will ever know.

Everyone should have a go-to person and I am saddened that I do not have such a person in real life anymore. We all need guidance, whether you have been training horses for 1, 5, 10 or 50 years.

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Nice input, sarah!

Yes, when the teaching materials aren't helping you, & you have no mentor, your horse suffers that dead-end.
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Good thread Northern! I think all horse owners, trainers, & riders should have a go-to person. I've been riding since before I could walk, showing since 4 yrs old and have been training for 15 years. I still have a go-to person, well people rather.

There is always opportunity to learn & better yourself regardless of experience & riding level.

I'm a hands on type of person, I couldn't have learned near as much from books, dvds, most certainly not an internet forum as I did from the real life trainers and horsemen I've worked for, with & learned from.
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MH, thanks for the benefit of your life-long experience!

I wish that amateurs upon the brink of horse ownership'd ask themselves, "What if my teaching materials don't suffice, & I'm up the creek without a paddle? The negative impact upon the horse & upon my own growth will be regrettable!"
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Everyone should have a go-to person and I am saddened that I do not have such a person in real life anymore. We all need guidance, whether you have been training horses for 1, 5, 10 or 50 years.
Agreed...and the day I stop learning new things about and with my horses, is the day I give them up...I don't ever want to come to a point where I "think I know it all"...that does nothing for the horse, or the horse community.

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I understand and agree 100% with the idea of having a mentor or go to person for more hands on help or guidance. I myself have someone I can rely on. I do not, however, agree that someone should be discouraged from posting questions or asking for help on this forum. I think the only dumb question is the one not asked and we shouldn't be discouraging or looking down upon someone for asking a question here. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, but I sometimes find the forum a bit intimidating and "judgey"....lol

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I never really had a mentor but I taught myself by getting ahold of everything I could about horses, books,magazines,training shows,etc. I have taught several people about horses and how to ride and even now my cousin calls me first when she has a question and usually I can help her so I am a mentor still to her and I taught her when she was 8 lol. I love teaching people about horses and I always tell others who aren't experienced at all that if they can, learn from somebody who knows about horses. But then again, you can know a lot about horses but it may not be right and if you are learning from someone who is teaching you wrong then it's really not helping anybody. Just like when I hear about people who throw a horse to saddle break it. That horse might end up broke, but the trust won't be there and there's just a better way to do things. Ignorance is the cause of so much abuse, and in the end horses get messed up and so do riders. If people would take the time to really understand the way horses learn, think,feel, training would be so easy for them. Most of the time the owner isn't going about something the right way because they don't know any better.
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...I do not, however, agree that someone should be discouraged from posting questions or asking for help on this forum. I think the only dumb question is the one not asked and we shouldn't be discouraging or looking down upon someone for asking a question here...
If you want to spend the rest of your days telling the stuck people that they need a "live" mentor, fine. I'll leave those posts for ya!

It's not a matter of looking down on someone: it's a matter of pointing out the lack of foresight & preparation that so commonly occurs in the amateur horse-owner's "division". It's a matter of USING this platform to speak on behalf of the horses! What about them - the victims in these scenarios? By the time Mr./Ms. Amateur gets around to posting the "problems" with the horses here, the horse has already been unhappy for some time!

I already explained that asking a bunch of strangers whose qualiifications to advise one are unknown at best & insufficient at worst IS a poor substitute for asking a qualified person.

Do you go to a quack or a qualified doctor? Do you ask Joe Shmoe to work on your car or do you go to a qualified mechanic?
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I do not, however, agree that someone should be discouraged from posting questions or asking for help on this forum. I think the only dumb question is the one not asked and we shouldn't be discouraging or looking down upon someone for asking a question here.
For me, I'm not saying that posting questions & asking for help should be discouraged. I do however think that many of the threads posted on here are issues that should be dealt with in the real world with hands on help. Typed words won't fix bad or dangerous behaviors.

I completely stand by everyone should have a mentor or a trusted knowledgeable horse person that they can ask for help. What one can put in words on here doesn't compare to being there in real life coaching through whatever the problem may be.

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