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        07-20-2009, 11:12 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Question Needs Help with A Horse

    Ok so my sister has a horse she never rides. I have been working with this mare for two or more weeks and she does good. We have troubles but right now we have a big problem which stops us from improving.

    This mare is big and broad and 10 years old. She has troubles turning. Her back and spine are stiff so when she moves, she moves slowly and does wide turn. I been trying to ride her in a small corral forcing her to bend a bit, and even laying obstacles for her to weave through.

    I was wondering if anyone had any other surrgestions. On or off her back. I would like her someday to be able to turn around, and maybe go around barrels without wide turns and slow pace. Does anyone have any ideas on how to make my stiff mare become more supple and flexable????
         
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        07-20-2009, 11:19 PM
      #2
    Weanling
    Have you had a chiro out? And/or a equine massage therapist? Is she still from not moving or from a confo problem?

    If you can clear any confo or pain problems, I would suggest ground driving. I know I recommend that a lot, but it really helped me get my horse to bend before I got on his back. He was super unbalanced from the track, but ground driving really helped. But make sure you rule out any physical problems first.
         
        07-20-2009, 11:44 PM
      #3
    Trained
    Is she chubby? Shedding some of the excess weight will help her supple up immensely.

    Otherwise, you're basically on the right track, you've just gotta work slowly and build up the amount of 'tight' work slowly. Work on laterally bending her neck, so you can loosen those muscles. You can do that on the ground and in the saddle. Using your lead rope just take the slack out and rest it on her wither, and leave it there till she gives; as she gets better she will bend right round to her shoulder, without you even pulling that far. Then she should be suppling up enough to start doing more undersaddle. For lateral work undersaddle, you'll bring one rein to your hip, give her pressure with that side's leg, and leave it there until she stops and gives. Do with both sides.

    You can also work at disengaging her hindquarters; again, an exercise you can do on the ground or undersaddle...I like to start on the ground (especially if a horse is un used to work), that way you aren't interfering much. Stand at his shoulder, and point at his hip with a dressage whip, if the horse doesn't move away with the intent, then start lightly tapping until he does; what you are looking for is for the near hind leg to cross in front of the off hind leg...When that happens stop, and praise the horse! You can do this several times in each direction. When you do this undersaddle, you'll bring the rein back like you did with lateral work, only you're going to bring your leg back further; for the first few times, or weeks, you may have to exaggerate the position, and almost bring it back to the rear cinch, but put pressure there, and hold the rein pressure, until you feel the disengagement of the rear.
         
        07-21-2009, 12:17 AM
      #4
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rosie9r    
    Have you had a chiro out? And/or a equine massage therapist? Is she still from not moving or from a confo problem?

    If you can clear any confo or pain problems, I would suggest ground driving. I know I recommend that a lot, but it really helped me get my horse to bend before I got on his back. He was super unbalanced from the track, but ground driving really helped. But make sure you rule out any physical problems first.

    Well we wonder if she has back pain and side problems, but she gives us not many reasons to do. We beleive she used to be abused but not sure about the pain. If I popped her back could that help, or are there any techneics I could do myself?
         
        07-21-2009, 12:20 AM
      #5
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mom2pride    
    Is she chubby? Shedding some of the excess weight will help her supple up immensely.

    Otherwise, you're basically on the right track, you've just gotta work slowly and build up the amount of 'tight' work slowly. Work on laterally bending her neck, so you can loosen those muscles. You can do that on the ground and in the saddle. Using your lead rope just take the slack out and rest it on her wither, and leave it there till she gives; as she gets better she will bend right round to her shoulder, without you even pulling that far. Then she should be suppling up enough to start doing more undersaddle. For lateral work undersaddle, you'll bring one rein to your hip, give her pressure with that side's leg, and leave it there until she stops and gives. Do with both sides.

    You can also work at disengaging her hindquarters; again, an exercise you can do on the ground or undersaddle...I like to start on the ground (especially if a horse is un used to work), that way you aren't interfering much. Stand at his shoulder, and point at his hip with a dressage whip, if the horse doesn't move away with the intent, then start lightly tapping until he does; what you are looking for is for the near hind leg to cross in front of the off hind leg...When that happens stop, and praise the horse! You can do this several times in each direction. When you do this undersaddle, you'll bring the rein back like you did with lateral work, only you're going to bring your leg back further; for the first few times, or weeks, you may have to exaggerate the position, and almost bring it back to the rear cinch, but put pressure there, and hold the rein pressure, until you feel the disengagement of the rear.

    I do bend her neck on ground or under saddle. But I will try to engadge her hind end. I will also go out more to work with her neck, now that I know im on the right track.
         
        07-21-2009, 12:28 PM
      #6
    Weanling
    Oh I don't think I would try to pop her back yourself, you might cause damage. Mom2pride has some good ideas, definitely disengaging the hindquarters should help you. Keep us posted! :)
         
        07-22-2009, 06:24 PM
      #7
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mom2pride    
    give her pressure with that side's leg, and leave it there until she stops and gives.
    May I ask what you mean by "gives". TIA
         
        07-22-2009, 09:21 PM
      #8
    Weanling
    When a horse "gives" it means they respond by giving you the action you are asking for. In the above response, when they are laying the lead rope on her withers and taking the slack out until she "gives" they are wanting the mare to give with her head/neck and turn toward the pull of the rope, releasing the pressure. Same thing with the next example when they are saying in the saddle, pull the rein back to your hip with some pressure (no slack in the rein) at the same time applying that leg (the same leg, same rein you are using) to her side, leaving your leg on her side until she begins to "give" by flexing her neck and body around your leg. Horses will natural try to pull against pressure to get away, once the "give" into the pressure they begin to flex and bend and you can gain more control over moving their body.
         
        07-22-2009, 11:04 PM
      #9
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ridesapaintedpony    
    May I ask what you mean by "gives". TIA
    Giving to the pressure, meaning the horse turns her nose\head toward the rider's leg...at which time the rider would stop leg pressure, and release the rein.
         
        07-23-2009, 12:22 PM
      #10
    Weanling
    Okay, thanks. I've been doing that too with my horse.
         

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