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    02-16-2013, 10:24 PM
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Foal
New horse, buddy sour??

Well, I am realizing really fast that my new horse that I brought home last Saturday is very "buddy sour" and/or has some pretty serious separation anxiety issues. He goes into official training in March and my trainer is giving me a lesson once per week until then. Because of his now obvious issue, my trainer as well as some of the threads here have suggested leaving him tied away from his "buddies" until he gets over it (settles down). Just wondering how long to leave him tied? It may not be realistic for me to be at the barn for hours on end with him having his little "fits", but if he hasn't settled down in a certain period of time, is it okay to take him back to his paddock and do it again the next day? I was also wondering what might be a good schedule to keep until we start training. I can turn him out away from the others, lunge him in the round pen and leave him tied for a bit. I am thinking I need to get him over worrying about his buddies and paying attention to me before I will get much out of him under saddle. Thanks for any suggestions.
     
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    02-16-2013, 10:30 PM
  #2
Trained
I would do the tying & letting him stew in his own juices when you can wait it out, otherwise he might get the idea that if he has hissy fit, you untie him & put him back. Usually the hissy fits don't last long though, not hours anyways.
     
    02-17-2013, 12:56 AM
  #3
Yearling
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Originally Posted by 5kiddos    
Well, I am realizing really fast that my new horse that I brought home last Saturday is very "buddy sour" and/or has some pretty serious separation anxiety issues. He goes into official training in March and my trainer is giving me a lesson once per week until then. Because of his now obvious issue, my trainer as well as some of the threads here have suggested leaving him tied away from his "buddies" until he gets over it (settles down). Just wondering how long to leave him tied? It may not be realistic for me to be at the barn for hours on end with him having his little "fits", but if he hasn't settled down in a certain period of time, is it okay to take him back to his paddock and do it again the next day? I was also wondering what might be a good schedule to keep until we start training. I can turn him out away from the others, lunge him in the round pen and leave him tied for a bit. I am thinking I need to get him over worrying about his buddies and paying attention to me before I will get much out of him under saddle. Thanks for any suggestions.
I would do some ground work with him, getting him to respect and listen to you as his leader. After ground work in the round pen I would tie him up for at least 1/2 hour and then take him back but I think the ground work would make a world of difference for you. Do a search on Youtube for Clinton Anderson and watch some videos about gaining respect and control on the ground, that might help.....
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    02-17-2013, 05:19 PM
  #4
Weanling
I've left my horse tied up all night if he,s not over it by the time you leave take him some water and a bite to eat and come see him in the morning but I tie mine in front of my house so I can hear him they will get the idea
     
    02-17-2013, 06:45 PM
  #5
Green Broke
It will do horse good to be tied for a while each and every time you work with him.

And make sure you aren't babying him too.
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    02-17-2013, 09:59 PM
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I had one take 3 days, but I put the horse up at night. After that, once in a while the horse would whinny and act silly and about 30 minutes of being tied up and she just propped up a hind foot and went to sleep.

I have tried to have 3 or 4 hours as a minimum time to keep a horse tied up. If a horse is tied up for 4 hours and is still throwing a fit, and you put him up and tie him up again tomorrow, I do not think it changes the dynamic. I do not think it hurt a thing if you go right back and do it again tomorrow. At some point it will sink in that there is life after separation.

I have found the safest place to tie one is to a rope hanging down from a tree limb. THE ROPE MUST HAVE A GOOD SWIVEL SNAP IN IT. They will go around and around and paw and whinny and throw big fits and when the dust finally settles, they will all 'give it up'.
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    02-17-2013, 10:06 PM
  #7
Yearling
This thread may help me, as well. I hate how dependent on other horses my BO has allowed Reno to become. She put him in a different stall for a night and day during some barn renovations (had to move one of the stallions into Reno's stall) and when I gave him breakfast he was so anxiety-ridden it took me 10 minutes to get him to stay still and calm enough for me to bolt out of the door and latch it without him busting out...totally un-Reno behavior. I really should suggest that he gets some time away from his "girls" to break him of this...it will especially help out if and when I move him elsewhere.
     
    02-17-2013, 10:21 PM
  #8
Trained
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Originally Posted by 5kiddos    
Well, I am realizing really fast that my new horse that I brought home last Saturday is very "buddy sour" and/or has some pretty serious separation anxiety issues..... I am thinking I need to get him over worrying about his buddies and paying attention to me before I will get much out of him under saddle. Thanks for any suggestions.
I think you need to consider & respect his perspective first & foremost. Of course, horses do need to learn how to be on their own in a human world, but think for a moment how unnatural that is, how stressful & dangerous it is for a prey/herd animal. Think for a moment how stressful it has been for him being new to you, the place, etc. I'd therefore concentrate first & foremost on allowing him to become comfortable in his environment & learning to trust you, before you start asking him to 'go it alone'.
     
    02-17-2013, 10:51 PM
  #9
Foal
What types of things help him to become comfortable with his environment and me? For the first week I just hung out with him, groomed him, turned him out each day for short periods of time and walked him around the facilities. After the first week I tried to tie him away from his own paddock area and he was obviously stressed. I worked with him and my trainer on some ground work/lungeing yesterday. Today I turned him out for a bit, walked him around for a bit and tried to tie him. I stayed near him while he was tied, so he wasn't alone, just not with his buddies. He about dug his way to Chine . I am wondering if he might specifically be attached to the two halflinger mares in the paddock next to his? They are very attached to each other (they go crazy when separated) and seem to be the ones his is "communicating" with most of the time.
     
    02-18-2013, 01:05 AM
  #10
Trained
What will help him be comfortable? Becoming accustomed to his surrounds, herdmates & being in a stress-free stable environment(no pun intended - keeping him out 24/7 to become part of a stable herd, rather than a few hrs turnout here & there & seeing horses only over a fence). Time. If he's only been there a week or 2, that's not much time to settle in, especially being put in, taken out, moved around, etc. I'd be getting to know him & developing a trusting relationship with him without stressing him out more by separating him. Once he's learned he can trust you, then he won't have a problem leaving his mates to go off with his other one - you. Right now, everyone are strangers, but the mares can at least 'speak horse' & provide him with that 'safety in numbers' feeling.
     

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