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    04-19-2011, 10:52 AM
New horse has no respect for my space!

Recently bought a 16'5 hh QH/Paint and he is a beauty. BUT... He has no respect for my space, so to speak. I take it as he hasn't learned that I'm boss yet. Am I wrong?

As well... He THROWS his head as soon as you put your hand on his halter almost like he doesn't want you to touch his head. BUT you can rub all over his head and handle his ears, as long as you're only petting him. But as soon as you put your hand on his halter he throws his head. (AND he is so much taller than me he about rips my fingers off every time!)

The previous owner rode him with a halter and reins attached to the halter, because she couldn't get a bit in his mouth. I can see why, because he doesn't like his mouth handled AT ALL! I'm sure with some work and convincing we could get a bit in his mouth without hurting him, but I haven't tried yet. I've heard a few people tell me try a hackamore, but I feel like he already throws his head when I put pressure on his halter, so I'm not sure a hackamore would be best.

My friend says "Just get on him!!" and I don't feel comfortable just "getting on him" because I feel like fixing his ground manners is a building block to under saddle manners.

Am I doing the right thing by taking it slow and trying to fix the smaller problems before I fix the bigger problems? Not sure what to do. Any advice on how to handle this horse is welcome!
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    04-19-2011, 11:09 AM
I think you are doing the correct thing. If he doesn't respect you on the ground he most certainly won't respect you in the saddle. I would stick with what you are doing.
    04-19-2011, 12:02 PM
Well the problem with "keeo doing what you're doing" is that im not really doing anything but avoiding it and not taking my friends advice and just jumping him and making his problems worse.

I need to know how to fix his problems.

Also, for anyone wondering, he is 7 years old.

My friend thinks that when he is pushy with me I should smack him in the head, but I don't agree. I feel like that would make an already "head-shy" horse worse. But how to I teach him he can't run all iver me and invade my space. As well as how do I stop the head tossing?
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    04-19-2011, 12:34 PM
One thing that I did with my pushy mare is that when they got into my space I backed them up. Make him move his legs and only make him stop when you want him to stop. Something else you can do I agree if he is head shy I would not hit him in the head but on the shoulder instead. You are going to have to get firm with him. It takes time and patience.
    04-19-2011, 12:50 PM
Thats what I did with him yesterday. I had him tied up amd I just kept my hand on his halter and when he would jerk his head away I would pop him on the sholder and say woah loudly. Then he would stop for a few minutes and try again. I just did it over and over. Hopefully he will learn with time.

I feel as if he only does it when I put pressure on his halter. Maybe he doesnt understand what the pressure means and that's why he throws his head. But I don't know how to teach him that he should move away from the pressure and that means relief.
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    04-19-2011, 12:53 PM
How does he do tied? It might just take him being tied for a while everyday and let him figure it out as long as you can be there so just in case.
    04-19-2011, 12:56 PM
He does okay tied. But he doesnt like to be away for the other horses. We tied him yesterday so we could ride another horse without him following and pestering the other horse. He threw some what of a fit if the other horse got too far away.
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    04-19-2011, 12:59 PM
Someone posted this link on one of my threads a few days ago maybe it could be helpful!! The Horse In-Hand | Horse Videos Video Library Let me know what you think.
    04-19-2011, 01:00 PM
Not real sure then. I wish I could be of more help but I will keep thinking and if I come up with something I will post back.

Is there a way that you can get a video of him when you grab his halter. It might help us to give you better advice if we can see exactly what he is doing?
    04-19-2011, 01:54 PM
I will take some videos of his behavior and post them so people can see exactly what he is doing.
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