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post #1 of 14 Old 01-13-2010, 06:49 PM Thread Starter
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New Horse Im Training! - Opinions??

This beautiful boy is Andi, he is a 3 year old percheron/thoroughbred gelding. He is extremely green and only really knows how to walk under saddle. He's the first guy Im really going to be training from the ground up by myself, So im really nervous! Any advice would be great!

Here's a video of him free lunging! Let me know what you think of him!

(Im the one filming, my friend kim is the one you can see hehe)

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post #2 of 14 Old 01-13-2010, 08:09 PM
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Very nice looking boy. The barn I used to work at primarily trained percheron/thoroughbreds so I know his type. They can be wonderful riding horses!

First of all, I hope you have a round pen to work with because you are really going to tire yourself out if all you have is that arena to work in. It can still be done, but it won't be the easiest way.

Secondly, do not let that big boy push you around AT ALL. DO NOT TOLERATE IT! This is important with all horses, but especially big percheron crosses like him. That might just go without saying, but I feel like I have to say it because in the video he started crowding in close to you and you backed up. Right before you said 'don't follow me' he was looking right at you and shaking his head up and down, which is what he would do to his pasture mates when he wants them to move out of his way (just watch horses in the pasture at feeding time, you will see what I mean) He was CLEARLY invading your space and testing you to see if you would stand your ground as someone higher then him in the pecking order, or if you would cave to his desires. Sorry, but you failed the test. Not trying to be mean, just telling you the truth and am really trying to help. It does not take much for a horse that size to hurt someone, even if they are not trying to (I am sure you know this already). I know you were holding the camera and were not holding a whip, but you should have a least waved an arm at him and stepped TOWARDS him, not away from him. Unless he really is going to run over you, kick you, strike you, stand your ground and make HIM move.

Honestly, I really am trying to help. Not just trying to be a know it all, because I don't know it all. I just know a little bit about training young percheron crosses. You say this is the first horse you will be training by yourself, that is great, but do you have someone to coach you? Someone to give you advice or lessons? Someone that has done a lot of training before? If not, FIND SOMEONE. Trust me, please do. I tried training my first horse all by myself without a coach and I ended up getting seriously hurt, an injury that crushed my confidence and took me a long time to come out of. You can train a horse, I believe anyone person with common sense can train a horse, but no one is born with a natural ability to train. It comes from practice and comes from learning from someone more experienced.

Best of luck. He is BEAUTIFUL! I am excited to see more of him. Just curious, what are you plans for him?

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post #3 of 14 Old 01-13-2010, 10:12 PM
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Okay, I'm officially going to come and steal him...tehehe! I'll leave you a 2 year old QH in his place, Okay??? Lol!!!! Just kidding! He's gorgeous, and good luck training him!

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He's a beautiful solid looking boy, I have no doubt you'll have a blast with him!

But I have to agree with Jubilee - stand your ground. I too noticed that when he started trying to shoo you out of his space, you let him. Yes he's young and frisky, but ground manners should be practised at ALL TIMES. At no point should any horse owner/trainer be OK with the horse being rude/agressive. The sooner you show him you'll not accept it, the faster he'll straighten himself out.

Also have to agree with the round pen - free lunging is an awesome way to blow off some steam, but I don't see it as a training tool - not the way you showed in your short vid anyway. You need to be able to push him forward at all times, until YOU say that big of an arena, you can push him into a canter but you'll be hard pressed to keep it for a lap if he feels like trotting.

Much like Jubilee, I'm just trying to be helpful. I hope you're able to get a coach out to help, at the very least just to oversee how you're doing with him and give pointers. Doesn't have to be every time you work with him, but once a week have someone with training experience come out and watch you work him for an hour. You'll be surprised how helpful some fresh eyes and outside advise can be.

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post #5 of 14 Old 01-13-2010, 10:32 PM
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i can't let frida free lunge in that big of a space. i have a hard enough time keeping her attention when she's 20 feet away from me and attached to a rope. beautiful, big horse. i'd love to see some videos of you working with him.
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I wasnt working with him when I took the video, Another girl was (the one with the whip ) and lets just say she didn't work out... So now he's in my hands :-D I've trained lots of horses from the ground up with the help of a trainer, and she'll still be there if I need her, but he's my project

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It doesn't matter if you weren't "working with him" when you took the video. He shouldn't be allowed to invade your space no matter the circumstances.

That's like saying: I work at a store, and I just clocked off. There are some people standing around looking confused, and I shrug and go "not my problem." Well, it might not be your problem that very minute, but it sure as hell can come back to bite you in the ass. In this scenario, maybe the people notice you still in uniform and complain to the manager and you get fired. Perhaps not the best analogy, but it's late, and that's the best I can come up with in the moment.

Do you think your horse is going to go "Oh, I tried to invade her space before, but she wasn't 'working with me' then, so that didn't count"? Technicalities don't matter to horses.

That being said, he looks like a pretty horse, and I wish you luck.
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post #8 of 14 Old 01-14-2010, 09:33 AM
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I am glad to hear that you will have someone to help you if you need it. That's great.

He really is a nice looking boy and seems like he will be a lot of fun to work with.

Good Luck!


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You dont need a round pen to free lunge a horse. I've only really used it for turnout.

You probably shouldnt have been in the ring with him, to begin with, if hes loose. He should only be focused on one person when hes working.

Let us know how it goes.
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post #10 of 14 Old 01-14-2010, 09:47 AM
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I think what everyone is saying is pretty right on! I would say as far as a round pen I love them, if you like it then use one but if you can make it without it then that works for you. He is absoulty goregous!!!
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