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    06-23-2012, 10:25 PM
  #21
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
I truly stand by my initial thought that this horse needs to get ridden by a trainer. They can determine if the horse is fit for its purpose, knead out any bad habits, and figure out if there's anything going on and if a vet needs to be involved (but they passed PPE...)

And to stick your kid in schooling lessons on other horses in the mean time.
yeah, if they did radiographs, I totally agree but something about this is not totally adding up to me..but could be lack of info...just hate when someone gets hurt & it could have been preventable
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    06-23-2012, 10:43 PM
  #22
Weanling
Just sounds like he is testing him and isnt going to do anymore than he absolutely has to. Horses are smart and know when someone's a complete beginner and tend to treat them as so. Why would I walk when I don't have to? You let me just stand here so why walk? You have to be very straight forward with them when wanting them to move. Not mean or forceful but clear in what you want and don't take no as an answer. I know
Even my gelding will freeze up and not walk if someone's a beginner and he knows that he can get away with it and he is off the track and runs barrels! I sincerely doubt anythings wrong with him at all. He saw the crop and figured your son finally meant business so he took off either to scare the beginner or just cause he figured that's what he wanted!
     
    06-24-2012, 04:04 PM
  #23
Foal
I was not there when the horse was checked out by a vet, but the only thing written on the vet receipt is "Exam" with the price. And, one of the reasons that we did not want to deal with this trainer any longer was that he wouldn't get on the horse. When I asked him if he would get on and show my son what he needed to do, he said that the horse would be completely different with him and he needed to know that my son meant business when riding. He was also very rough with the horse and neither myself nor my son wanted him back around the horse again.

We were just moving cows and one of the cows got through the gate to the pasture that the horses are in. My son's horse took off, full speed, to this cow and ran him right back through the gate and then started prancing around with his tail high, like he was so proud of himself. So, maybe he does just need a job.

We are also going to bring the horse this evening to be evaluated and for my son to get his first lesson.

My son is not completely ignorant when it comes to horses. Yes, he is new to ridding, but we have a pony that we have had for ten years and this horse has been his responsiblity for the past few years. The pony was a nightmare. She would come up to be petted, but if she saw a lead rope she would take off and it would be nearly impossible to catch her (you couldn't even get her in with a food bucket). My son has worked with her for the past year and now has her where you can do almost anything with her (and you can walk right up to halter her), including saddle her and lead her around. She is not to the point where we trust her enough to let kids ride her yet, but she is getting close.

So, this is why we decided to get him a horse that he could ride. At least I know that he has the patience to give the horse time if that is what the trainer says that he needs.
     
    06-24-2012, 04:52 PM
  #24
Foal
"something about this is not totally adding up to me."


I'm not sure what you mean. No, I'm guessing that radiographs weren't done. It was a "farm call" done at the previous owners barn and I was not there at the time. I just got the receipt and was told what the vet said.

I told the previous owners that we were having problems with him and he said that they tested them also when they got him, but he settled down and was a wonderful horse for kids to learn on.

I would think that we were taken, but the previous owners wife was one of my kids teachers and I know that she would not want my kids on anything that she didn't feel safe around. They also gave us paperwork from the ranch that he came from. I have watched their videos and they seem to know what they are doing.
     
    06-24-2012, 05:44 PM
  #25
Weanling
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Originally Posted by ccbmmom    
"something about this is not totally adding up to me."


I'm not sure what you mean. No, I'm guessing that radiographs weren't done. It was a "farm call" done at the previous owners barn and I was not there at the time. I just got the receipt and was told what the vet said.

I told the previous owners that we were having problems with him and he said that they tested them also when they got him, but he settled down and was a wonderful horse for kids to learn on.

I would think that we were taken, but the previous owners wife was one of my kids teachers and I know that she would not want my kids on anything that she didn't feel safe around. They also gave us paperwork from the ranch that he came from. I have watched their videos and they seem to know what they are doing.
what I meant was that many of the posts on here were blaming lack of experience with "your son" & the horse needing a trainer to tune him up...my concern & attn keeps going back to the fact that the original owner couldn't get him to do more than a slow walk....that has zero to do with your son's experience! So in my mind I ask why? And if you paid for the PPE & got zero info...I would be angry with the vet! If the seller paid for the PPE I ?? The type of exam that was done...mostly did they perform complete flexion tests & a discussion over radiographs. Just telling you it was an exam here is the receipt tells you absolutely nothing about the horse other than there was nothing obvious seen. Any way I hope the lesson goes well keep us posted. :)
     
    06-24-2012, 11:22 PM
  #26
Foal
Well, we brought the horse to the trainer. It took him about two minutes to get that horse to do things that we never imagined possible! He then got on the horse and (luckily) he did the same things that he did with us. It didn't take any time to straighten that out either. The trainers son, who is the same size and build as my son, got on him and he walked my son through what he wanted so that he could see what he wanted before he actually got on. The horse did test my son, but my son learned how to get him going and how to keep him going. He also got me out there and gave me a lesson along with my son. I can't do a lot of riding anymore because I had back surgery and can't take much bouncing around, but I did learn a lot as far as groundwork is concerned.

While there, I asked the trainer what he thought of the horse (if he was worth keeping) and he said that he didn't have anything there that was better for a kid to learn on. He said that the horse was just rusty (and a little lazy) and had been getting away with things for too long. He said that he was trained right and it didn't take him long to remember what he was suppose to do. He also said that the horse was soooo smooth.

It also did wonders for my son's confidence! He was scared to force the horse to do anything and worried that it would hurt and the horse would jump and buck. About that time, the trainers wife walked up behind and popped my son on the rear. He turned around and looked at her real fast. She asked him if that hurt and he said no and then she asked if he was paying attention to her now and he started laughing and he said that he understood now! He said only to do that if he wouldn't move and not to do it where it would hurt, just to get his attention. By the end of the lesson, my son was riding all over the arena. He was even backing him up, which the previous owners couldn't do in the saddle! We are going back so that my son can learn more and eventually learn to rope off of him. I'm so glad that there were smiles this evening instead of tears!!!
     
    06-24-2012, 11:41 PM
  #27
Weanling
So glad that he was just rusty! Glad your son finally got him moving and that you found a great trainer!
I'm glad that it's nothing that's physically wrong with the horse, just as I had thought. They just need to know whose boss!!!:)
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    06-25-2012, 12:19 AM
  #28
Yearling
Looks like things are moving up for you guys! That's great. I hope things continue to move in a positive direction.
     
    06-25-2012, 01:27 AM
  #29
Green Broke
Glad you found a good trainer that could help you and your son and things are working out.

Just remember that they will test you from time to time. If you don't know what to do to fix it, don't get frustrated but ask someone for help. It may take a little time, like you found out already, to find them. Hopefully the trainer you did find, you can go back to in the future if needed.
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    06-25-2012, 02:10 AM
  #30
Green Broke
So glad to hear it's going better for your son and the horse! It sounds like the new trainer is just what was needed!
     

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