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    07-14-2013, 06:35 PM
Green Broke
I can handle her and I have a list of things I need to work on. She dose not need her teeth done, as it was done last year and she has been fine (and as I said I looked and everything is fine). The trainers out here are ether cruel or over priced. And if I sell her she will be dog food (no one wants a 18 year old unregistered horse that needs work when there are 50 others that are better for the same price). If you go back you will see im willing, but everyone started to jump on me AFTER I agreed with them on what I needed to work on/do. I have come a long way with her. She no longer attacks people in her stall. She no longer runs and tried to jump the fence at the site of a rope. She dose not bolt, rear or buck. She can stand tied without trotting in place. She LIKES people now. Her only issue is her brakes need work. They are there, but they are not the best. She stopped bolting, but she is barn sour. I came here asking for help. Not a magic answer, but things to help her. Im already willing to ride in the rope halter and work on her stop. I will do circles with her to work on balance. No trails until her stop is better. Etc. No I will not use a hack as I have seen what she dose. And as much as I would love to work her every day I can't because a cool day here is 106 with a low of 98. So anything major will have to wait till fall. I cannot hire a trainer as I cannot pay 400 a month board (at the trainers) on top of 500 a month training fee. The economy here is crap and its hard enough to keep her much less hire a trainer.
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    07-14-2013, 06:40 PM
Then I apologize for my post. From reading the thread it sounded like you weren't really committed to actually changing anything. Good luck with her!
    07-14-2013, 06:55 PM
Green Broke
Thank you sorry to snap. This horse has tried me alot. Stressed me out ALOT. But I have learned alot. Most people im my area beat a horse into submission, but I could not stand that and worked with her gently (not like babying but I was NOT going to hit her in the head with a 2x4). The only trainer in my area that is not a barral racer beats the horses (using the 'clinton anderson stick' she took all the skin of a gelding's chest after making him back up for an hour straight).

So This is what I need to do:

Ride in the mustang halter.
Do circles for balance.
Lots of stop and go.
Keep it at a walk/ trot until the stop for both is perfect.
Then work on the stop at the canter.

And possibly some driving?
    07-14-2013, 07:53 PM
My advice on ground driving is practice with a well broke horse before you try it on your mare. That is its your first time ground driving. A horse with as much history as yours when combined with multiple ropes and it being a first time for you could easily lead to a wreak. She could easily spin, get wrapped up in the lines and really loose her cool. So, know what the situation should look like before you try it on her.
    07-14-2013, 08:06 PM
Green Broke
She has been driven before and is a dream (odd I know) but ill try to find a horse that can be driven (i know only one person in the area who even trains that way).
    07-14-2013, 09:41 PM
My post about the float was actually done on the first page, lol, put the iPod down & came back to it later & hit submit. Ok watched your vids and read all the comments. Unless you get this horse comfortable, fitted tack and someone to show you how to soften her to pressure, use your aids properly, enjoy your horse, because she giving you all she knows how and you can't help her doing what you are doing. Is she really horrid to ride or are you okay with how she goes for you? She looks like a sensitive horse that is confused.
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    07-15-2013, 12:11 AM
Green Broke
She is a horrid ride but I love her so ill put up with it. And she knows to stop. When she is ridden alot (and in a listening mood) she will stop like a well trained show horse regardless of gait. But the longer she sits (or if we are going home) she likes to 'forget' what whoa means -_-'. So ill work with her in the halter. The saddle fits but no saddle fits her 'perfect'. The english is lighter and is not as big as the western, but she is a nut job when I use it. In the western she is calm and I have better balance (or if she suddenly decides that a slight turn means to turn in the other direction -_-'). Im hoping to apprentice with a trainer next year so hopefully that will help me with her. Ill work on what you guys said, as I have no help around my barn (I know more than the people I board with) and my bf dose NOT like arabians and wants nothing to do with her ether.
    07-16-2013, 11:15 AM
I am an English rider so it might be a little different but in my experience with sensitive horses the tighter your leg the quieter and more relaxed the horse becomes. The reason she is crazy in an English saddle probably is not the saddle but rather how you ride in the saddle. I have ridden a ton of OTTB's talk about no brakes they are often taught to grab the bit and run. I always sit deep into my saddle (don't get behind the motion) and squeeze a horse up into a downward transition. Also your posting should determines the speed of the trot, not the other way around.
    07-24-2013, 01:20 PM
Put a verbal 'whoa' cue on her. When you're on her, do tons and tons of transitions to the halt from every gait. If she doesn't stop immediately, back her up.
    08-21-2013, 10:37 PM
Green Broke
Well My mare surprised me today. I knew my mare could drive in a circle (kinda like lunging but with drive lines). I did not know she knew how to drive as much as she dose. Here is a vid my friend took. Id mute it as My friends cell goes off and she is talking to her granddaughter lol.

She did everything I asked, including the trotting.


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