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post #1 of 13 Old 07-26-2013, 07:47 AM Thread Starter
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I have just got, she was free, a new horse she is 16 vet and farrier said she's sound but she just has no manners, pushy happy to step on you barges doesn't stable well etc what can I do?
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post #2 of 13 Old 07-26-2013, 08:02 AM
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You train her. If you don't know how or what to do, the safest thing for you and your horse are getting a trainer. If that's not possible, research the popular trainers and watch every DVD you can (I personally like Clinton Anderson and recommend him). This is something that can lead to very dangerous behavior and is already somewhat dangerous as is. Good luck and be careful!
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I have just got, she was free, a new horse she is 16 vet and farrier said she's sound but she just has no manners, pushy happy to step on you barges doesn't stable well etc what can I do?
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The "free" horse -- free is never free

Free either involves health issues the Owner doesn't or can't deal with, the horse is being abused, or the Owner doesn't know how to handle the horse and the horse has taken control.

In your instance, it sounds like the latter.

Those of us that have trained our own horses for years, know full well what to do with a horse that is pushy and wants to step on your feet.

It sounds as if you are new to horses; DancingArabian gave some good advice.

I will add that, if you can't afford a trainer, get the DVD's but you will have to pony up and become an assertive "BECAUSE I SAID SO!" person.

That doesn't mean beat the horse half to death but it does mean giving the horse thirty seconds of thinking you will kill it, if it doesn't start minding it's manners.

Also be aware that once a problem is "fixed", it never stays fixed. Horses are always testing us, some more than others, so you will always have to be watching for the subtle beginning signs of bad behavior.

I have four horses with four very different personalities. They have all tested me from time-to-time.

Correction for that testing can vary from just changing the tone of my voice when saying the horse's name, to having to get the riding crop and whap the pig-headed horse who would laugh at mild, verbal chastising

Hope this helps and good luck to you

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If she's spent a lot of time on pasture, she sees a stall as a trap. If a horse can see out of it's stall (cage) it thinks a predator can attack it and it has no where to run. You know there's no predator but with her keen senses she may smell something troublesome a mile away. If she's barging, it may be because she wants out of the barn. If you can leave her outside 24/7 bring her in at mealtimes so there's a pleasant association, then put her out. Gradually increase the stall time by hanging a small mesh hay net. If she gets antsy, take her outside and let her look around then see if she'll go back in or is reluctant.
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I would just like to say I didn't ask this question to get hate I asked for tips:( she is free she has no problems apart from the manners, the owner was moving and needed to get rid of her ASAP and I have owned horses for most of my life, I was just wondering if she would learn because she is old, and you can't teach an old dog new tricks
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You haven't got 'hate'.
No where in this thread has anyone been rude, or nasty.
Every one has offered you very good advice.

As someone said, no horse is free. They all come with baggage of some sort.
This horse could become very, very dangerous.
Either get an experienced professional to teach her some manners, or start teaching her yourself, by watching videos, and reading books on the subject.
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post #7 of 13 Old 07-26-2013, 10:36 AM
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I was just wondering if she would learn because she is old, and you can't teach an old dog new tricks
I didnt see hate either? any ways, have you ever tried teaching an old dog new tricks? they learn, just are a little more 'set in their ways' than a young dog. all species are the same, when they are young they know nothing, and soak up knowledge like a sponge, as they get older, they learn what works for them, form oppinions and a knowledge of whats expected of them. This mare is more than capable of learning to behave, and she is by no means old yet. You need to be a firm leader and not let her get away with anything.
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You CAN teach an old dog new tricks. Horses NEVER quit learning. They never "know" everything. They go day to day. Yesterday is gone, and they do not know about tomorrow. They smell adrenaline, so they know who is afraid. Then they try to run, or fight.

I love the Teddy Roosevelt quote.."Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you're correct either way."

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Of course you can teach her new stuff it may take a bit longer than usual as she is that bit older and stubborn but as long as you are strong and willing she'll follow. When Horses are in the wild they learn to follow and obey the more dominant of the herd. Therefore as long as you show your dominance she'll have no choice but to obey. The groundings of any Horse and Human relationship is dominance and respect, once you have this then you can progress in what will become a very strong and happy companionship.

But remember to be patient and assertive

it may well be worth your time if you were to almost strip back to basics and retrain her in your own way so you can both learn how eachother works. But obv only depends on how bad she is.

I'm also reading a book at the moment which is really good for learning about horse characteristics, i've been working with horses for 15 years and I found it a great help to understanding the reasons why horses may behave in a certain way in certain situations. Really does make you think twice at how you approach your horse with new things. It's called The Horse Behaviour hand book by Abigail Hogg. Worth a read

Hope this has helped at all xx
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post #10 of 13 Old 07-26-2013, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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Sounds like I should get the book then!
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