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post #1 of 30 Old 04-21-2009, 11:34 PM Thread Starter
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No respect

I've had my 2yr old for a few months now and she is a complete baby, you can do anything to her and she doesn't care. The only problem is she doesn't respect me and my space. She will push, shove, walk over me, whatever it takes to get her way. She also does the same thing to my yearling that she stays with. What can I do to make her respect me more? As sweet as she is, she can be dangerous when she wants because she doesn't think twice about running me over! She is a BIG girl and I'm only 110 lbs so she easily gets her way. Her previous owners did Parelli with her so I don't know if that's part of it or not, all I know is I need help!!

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post #2 of 30 Old 04-22-2009, 12:03 AM
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That sort of behavior happens a lot with people that treat babies like they won't someday grow into 1000 lbs. animals that can very easily smush a person. Next time the horse invades your space, acts like it's going to run you over, anything along those lines- turn your lead rope on it and start swinging and smacking. Make that horse move out of your space and make sure that the horse knows that it is not acceptable to barge into your space. Might sound harsh but that is a very rude and possibly dangerous behavior.
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post #3 of 30 Old 04-22-2009, 12:13 AM Thread Starter
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I HAVE smacked her with her leadrope, smacked her across her nose with my hand, etc. It doesn't even faze her, she acts like I didn't do a thing! I'm not the type of person to let my animals push me around, they always know to behave or they'll be reprimanded but this girl is something else!!
The people she came from REALLY babied her so I'm sure that's where this is coming from. I love/loved how sweet and gentle she is/was when I bought her but I guess it's kind of bad too!! Now I just need to figure out how to fix the problem!
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instead of smacking.. try wiggling the leadrope... put a curb chain on ... and when she invades your space wiggle the lead rope back and forth until she backs up.. then when she backs up and stands go over to her and pet her... let her know that she is only going to get loved if she stays out of your space... also.. I do this with my hugenormous horse... she liked to invade my space... so I invaded hers.. I would pull her around in circles staying right on her back flank... and she hated it... she doesn't do it anymore..

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post #5 of 30 Old 04-22-2009, 02:43 PM
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Apparently her previous owners didn't do Parelli correctly. Do you use a rope halter? If not I'd suggest one instead of a chain. She might just need a BIG interruption....as in a "bite" on her nose when you bump the rope. Sometimes confident/pushy horses like this need a big wake up call to see that you mean business. Do you do a lot of ground work with her?
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she was trained in parelli and she probably doesnt understand WHY ur smacking her seriously this isnt rocket science simple wiggle the rope when she comes near you! Harder and harder if she doesnt move away and stop when she steps back

Sorry to sound mean
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It's a lot harder than "wiggling" a rope.

I don't use a chain on young horses. I use it for Showmanship or Halter and when working with studs or other high spirited horses. Instead, I would actually go with a rope halter like spirit horse said. When she comes into your space, immediately give her a quick yank on the halter and ask her to back a few spaces out of your bubble. As soon as she stands still, praise her. Make sure to be repetitive and consistent and give her plenty of praise.
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post #8 of 30 Old 04-22-2009, 03:18 PM
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Apparently her previous owners didn't do Parelli correctly.
I've noticed you use that statement frequently. Why is it always the human doing it "wrong"?

I've said it before and I will say it again - and for what it's worth - the BNT themselves say it -

NOT ONE SINGLE METHOD WORKS FOR EVERY HORSE.

OP - you called her your 'baby'. Horses are horses. We love them but without respect, one party or the other is going to end up hurt. You are the senior in this relationship and you need to establish that.

I don't suggest hitting her in the face unless she is biting or head butting you. If you smack her - smack her on the shoulder or the belly and get her attention. Do not say 'no' as it rhymes with whoa. Tell her to quit using a voice that puts all of yuor being behind it. Take a week and do not give an inch. Firm with her while you are working her, feeding, grooming, etc.

Also remember she is two. Some have long attention spans at that age and some do not. Learn her (and your) limitations and end the session before any frustration starts.
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Do not say 'no' as it rhymes with whoa. Tell her to quit using a voice that puts all of yuor being behind it. Take a week and do not give an inch. Firm with her while you are working her, feeding, grooming, etc.

Also remember she is two. Some have long attention spans at that age and some do not. Learn her (and your) limitations and end the session before any frustration starts.
Good point! I make a loud "EH EH!" noise. I don't really make that for anything other than "hey, stop that!" and it seems to work. Good point about 2 year olds limited attention spans too...
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Good point! I make a loud "EH EH!" noise. I don't really make that for anything other than "hey, stop that!" and it seems to work. Good point about 2 year olds limited attention spans too...
I didn't know how to spell that!

I teach my students to make a "negative sound". They wonder what the heck I mean until I demonstrate. Universal horse language. Not so much what is said but how it's said!

Works on cats, dogs and husbands too.
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