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        02-14-2014, 06:31 PM
    Running martingale or not, it poor rider connection to the mouth. If he kept his hands still, the horse would tip it's nose in to relieve the pressure. The rider thinks he's lost contact so brings his hands back to put pressure on again. I don't think he has idea of where the horse's nose is until he's looking down it's neck at the ground.
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        02-14-2014, 06:39 PM
    Originally Posted by kay56649    
    Everyone using a snaffle should be using a running martingale with their snaffles. It really isn't safe without one.
    Totally and completely and utterly disagree. And, I must say I have never heard anyone ever make a statement like this before. I have spent years riding with a snaffle and never used any sort of tie down. Learn to train, learn to ride, stay safe. Don't rely on equipment to control a horse - it can also limit a horse and be MORE dangerous.
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        02-14-2014, 06:52 PM
    Originally Posted by kay56649    
    The horse's head really isn't "tied down". They are using a running martingale and it doesn't really pull their head down, just keeps it from coming up. Everyone using a snaffle should be using a running martingale with their snaffles. It really isn't safe without one. This horses isn't having its head pulled down, but is giving to the pressure of the hands and legs of the rider, so really the horse is choosing to do this. Not the most natural looking for this horse as it kind of looks like an arab, but nothing that looks "not normal".
    A properly trained horse does not need a running martingale with a snaffle. It can in fact be dangerous while trail riding. If you cross a creek your horse should never wear a running martingale or tie down. If they go down in the water they can't raise their head and can drown. My mare goes in a snaffle and I've never used a running martingale. Same with my old gelding that died a couple of years ago. Would you mind explaining why you think it's unsafe?
        02-14-2014, 07:01 PM
    I couldnt watch it all. Poor horse! The riders foot position was toes out at 90 degrees the entire time of what portioni I watched,,, keeping his heels constantly on. He was wearing spurs. His legs werent' quiet, so the bounce,bounce,bounce of his heels into the horse was digging the spurs in constantly. Between that and the tiedown/martingale/fork/whatever ,,,, IMO this horse was being tortured.

        02-15-2014, 06:52 PM
    Its Disgusting forcing a horse onto the forehend by force and pain, that's going to hinder the horse.
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