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    06-07-2009, 04:50 PM
If there is no sweat on his withers, it implies that the weight of the rider is not being distributed equally - I.e. There are pressure points all around the areas that aren't sweaty. Even if he isn't showing pain now, he likely will in the future.
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    06-07-2009, 06:41 PM
Ok I no...but the thing I don't really get is that all the signs everyone say to look for poor saddle fit arent there except for the unequal sweat marks, I kinda think that I may have mistook the dry marks for parts of his coat that havnt shedded out yet...i no its far fetched but I can't see him needing a bigger size (its a 6.5) and he is lean and not even full QH size he is more like arab size (by the way if there is unequal sweat marks would that mean it is too small?) I no im being stubborn and farfetched but all im saying is that we don't want to jump to conclusions (this is the ONLY time I've ever worked him to a sweat) so we will wait and see I guess IM HOPIN FOR THE BEST!
    06-07-2009, 06:48 PM
Dry spots can be a sign of too much pressure. That will eventually lead to white patches of hair which is scar tissue. If ridden in a saddle like that for too long the horse will eventually have issues. You want a nice even sweat pattern, no dry marks. That shows you the pressure was distributed equally.

On my warmblood when I first tried out the saddle I have no, I rode him long enough to make him sweat and when I took the saddle off at first glance it looked like he had a dry patch of hair near his withers, but once I felt it, it was just as wet as the other parts of him--his coat just looked different. Of course I rode him in it again to make absolutely sure. He's a very honest horse and will tell me when things are wrong but he never fussed about the saddle and he moved so well in it. So I bought it! Lol. I KNOW it fits him, however each time I get off I always check to make sure he has an even sweat pattern, just to make sure things are still lookin good.....I'm paranoid I guess lol.
    06-07-2009, 07:02 PM
Yeah im super paronoid about these things too in case you can't tell lol! That is y im going to ride in the saddle one more time and check around at saddle fitting to make sure b/c now that I think about it I didnt feel around it too much...ok and im still kinda confused, if this saddle didnt fit would that mean I would need a bigger or smaller saddle? (from what you guys can tell)
    06-07-2009, 08:28 PM
Im sry I have no pics (also sry that this is not at all wut the post started out as) but if you wanted to no the size of my horse and saddle stuff here it is-

-about 15.2 hands
-1000-1100 lb
-he has a small head similar to an arab
-he is very lean

-it is a silver royal elite trail/competition saddle
TREE: Rawhide Covered
BARS: Full Quarter
HORN: 2 1/2 Silver Cap Rawhide
GULLET: 7 1/2
RIGGING: Drop D In-Skirt
SKIRT: 27 x 27
WEIGHT: 23 lbs

Based on the info the only thing I can see is maybe the saddle being to big if anything (doesnt really make sense if he is having weird pressure points, perhaps the pad would help if it was to big but I still don't no if there is even anything wrong) but I hope this helps to clarify some things.. this is pretty frustrating please HELP ME!
    06-07-2009, 10:54 PM
Hmm, without pictures it's hard to say. Does he have high withers?

Something to think about......Big Horn makes a gaited horse saddle that has fit a lot of horses I've tried them on (I used to work in a tack shop before I moved back in December and I did a lot of saddle fittings) so maybe that's an option if your current saddle doesn't work out. They are actually relatively inexpensive, it's a half synthetic saddle but the best quality synthetic type saddle you can find. Really the only difference in that gaited saddle is that the bars are flared to allow for more shoulder action and movement, but I like that quality for ANY horse. It comes in a standard or wide bar.
    06-08-2009, 09:32 AM
He doesnt have high withers, he actually really doesnt have any at all I have been doing some research on how to check saddle fit and stuff so I will try it...another thing I forgot to mention is when using the thin pad (i didnt pay much attention when using the thick I will check next time) the back of the saddle has like a gap inbetween his body and the doesnt like slant up, it is even all the way trough so I don't no. I am just going to try all of this with the pad I will usually be using because that is wut matters, if it is off by a teeny bit w/ the thin pad but fixed with the thick pad then that's the best we will b able to do...CROSS YOUR FINGERS AND HOPE!
    06-08-2009, 06:04 PM
Are you using a back cinch on the saddle? The back cinch is used to anchor the back of the saddle down since a western saddle is so long. And there shouldn't be any gap between the back cinch and the horse's should lay right up against the belly, otherwise 1) if a horse kicks at a fly his foot could get caught, and 2) if it's not anchored properly the effect of the back cinch is lost.
    06-08-2009, 09:40 PM
Well believe it or not my saddle doesnt have a back cinch! I have no idea why I guess it is just the I said I THINK the back of the saddle was only lifting up while using the thin pad not the thick goin out tomorro so I will b sure to check. Thank you!
    06-08-2009, 10:07 PM
No problem! If it doesn't have a back cinch I would definitely get one, for safety number one.

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