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    11-12-2007, 10:17 PM
not consistant

Well the horse im training now is very inconsistant. When she trots she gets fast & slower alll the time & she goes into a canter while doing this. Its the first horse that im training so idk if its like this in a lot of horses starting out kinda or what. Also, she's pretty bad at gonig into a canted when you want her to. Like she goes into a canter everytime I don't want her to but when I give her the singnal & all, she doesnt even move! & I no im squeezing hard enough, but like I have to smack her on the shoulder to get her to canter & I HATE hitting horses like that.. soo that has got to change..
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    11-13-2007, 01:31 AM
How old is she? Green horses are often very inconsistent in their gaits. I wouldn't worry too much. Focus on asking for a steady pace, correct gently when needed. She will become more consistant with time in the saddle and practice. As for the canter; I would focus on getting a consistant walking pace, working trot, extended trot, and when she has all of that down without having to be corrected constantly, begin to ask for canter work. I have found that a horse will canter more easily and consistantly when they are ready for it. You may have to really work to get her into it until she understands what you are asking for, but when she is ready, it should come without a huge fight.
    11-13-2007, 04:52 PM
Foal not really to sure how old she is but im guessing 2-4 or so...after I ride her a while she usually gets a little more consistant but not by much, and I need to have short raines the whole time I ride her, but I guess its just a minor thing because she's still learning a lot
    11-13-2007, 05:54 PM
Sue Morris has a pretty good article on the canter depart that you might find instead of paraphrasing her, I'll just give you the link:

What it boils down to is that you need good rhythm and balance at the trot before you can expect to achieve a good canter transition, and that timing is everything. Learn to feel where the horses feet are and when you should ask.

Canter transitions are a lot harder for young and untrained horses than a lot of people seem to think. You can run them into it and if they are somewhat athletic they can pick it up...but there is a science to when and how you should ask to be successful.

I've said this before, but asking for the canter off a circle is a good way to set up a young horse. Anyway, I'll shut up, go read the article:P
    11-13-2007, 06:07 PM
One thing I would do opposite to what you are doing right now, especially since she is young, is to ride her on a loose rein for MOST of the time, not with tight reins. That can make especially young horses feel claustrophobic, and honestly, I wouldn't worry about a frame or riding with contact for quite some time.

Practice getting her to move off your slightest suggestion, either from your focus, seat, or legs. Take a lot of "passenger lessons" on her, for your benefit as well as hers. Again, do all this on a loose rein. Make a game out of it. Tell her "Don't make me use my reins," as in, say you want her to turn left. The sequence of the game would be you look left, turn your belly button left, add a little leg, then gently use your rein to direct her, then when she turns release the rein completely. Go through the sequence slow so that she can really connect each "phase." Soon all you would have to do is LOOK left and she will turn. The natural power of focus is really powerful if you work on it.
    11-13-2007, 06:26 PM
I agree to begin riding her on a loose rein. Just let her go, and get a feel for her own rhythm at the trot. Pick up a rein gently to redirect or correct her if she vears off or changes speed. Try to use your seat and body, and just help her get a feel for it all. Don't expect her to get it down in a single session. It will come with time over many sessions. One day, it will all of a sudden be there without you realizing it.

I also agree that it seems difficult for horses to learn to canter with a rider on them. Allow her to get totally consistant and balanced before even dealing with the canter.

2-4 is a pretty big age range, but still young either way, so take it easy and relax. Be patient and understanding. If she is closer to 2, be careful not to put too much riding time on at any one time. Is there any way to find out her age for sure. Her maturity will also influence how much you should expect and how long it will take her to figure it all out.
    11-14-2007, 11:34 AM
You can actually determine age in that range (a little harder when they are older) by teeth. The confo book I posted in the Critique forum actually has a good description with pictures of what to look for. I've read the wiki article on this, and it is accurate as well.
    11-20-2007, 10:58 PM
Im so ary it took me so long to find out how old she is but she is 7y/o but she was ridin 4 a while then put in a pature for 3 years sooo yaa..& like at horse lessions a girl was bucked off & hit a tree & had to go to the hostpital so ya I 4got to ask(i wonder y :roll: ) but ya..
    11-27-2007, 10:44 AM
Since she is 7 I am guessing that she probably knows what she is doing a little. My first horse was 5 and she wasn't mean but she sure was uneven and very hard mouthed. It might sound harsh but the pelham bit worked wonders for me. You might already know some of this but since I am unaware of what you do know I will elaborate on my experience. Instead of two reins you'll have four but what I like about it is, the bottom one you don't have to put any pressure on until you feel things are getting out of your control. The bottom rein is what helps tell them to stay collected and to pay attention to you. I didn't like hitting my horse either so this was an easier way to train. Anyhow as soon as she tried to quicken her pace I would put some pressure on that bottom rein and she'd slow back down to the pace I wanted. You don't necessarily have to ride with them tight on her but at first don't let any slack in them until you see results and then you can loosen if you feel she is listening. Be careful you don't ever really yank on that bottom rein because that would definitely hurt her and you shouldn't have to use it like that. Anyhow this should help you get a good start to the consistency you want in trotting and cantering. Hope this helps you.

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