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    01-03-2012, 12:01 PM
  #1
Weanling
Not a fan of feet cleaning

My paso fino just isn't a huge fan of giving his feet over. When I first got him he'd lift his feet up for a bit and then hop about until I dropped it. Now I simply refuse to drop it and he eventually gives up. He does take a bit of effort to make stand still so I can get his foot up. What can I do to stop this? He does lift then when asked, he just really doesn't like it.
     
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    01-03-2012, 12:34 PM
  #2
Weanling
My gelding was being a stinker with holding his feet for me. I could normally pick up his foot (although sometimes he would brace his leg and wouldn't let me pick it up). We had his old owner come out to help us, and we worked on picking up his feet for about 45 minutes. His old owner said that he had never been great with picking up his feet, and someone had told her to just hold his foot until he stops struggling.

Now, I understand it can be hard to hold on when you have a 1,000 pound animal trying to wrench his foot out of your hands, but it is possible! His previous owner lifted up his feet first, and it was scary to watch...She's probably only 105 pounds (and I'm like 115, two small girls). She held on until he stopped struggling, waited a few seconds, and then let go of his foot. She did that with all of his feet, then I took a try. He yanked a lot with me, but eventually we got to the point where he didn't struggle at all for the remainder of our time. Haha, then the farrier came out while we were working (he was a hour early) and said he could do his feet right then. Boy, Lookit was a complete angel!

I practice lifting up his feet every time I go out, and he keeps getting better :) Occasionally he will strike out with a front foot, but then I just take more time with his feet. I was even able to just go out into the pasture and lift up all of his feet very easily. If he had wanted to, he could have just ran away as he didn't have a halter or anything on.

So, just be patient and consistent. You'll have bad days (we all do!), but just try to fight through them!

Also, make sure you're careful, as I was left with some nice bruises after our first time working on it (hooves are hard!). My arms were really sore too...I had a fun time at work that day =P Remember, however much your horse likes you, he can accidentally injure you. The reason I say this is because I've heard someone say that they were scared of doing the feet thing at first, but then they thought, "Aw, he can't kill me." Psh! Yes he can! =P

Well, I hope you can get it figured out!
     
    01-03-2012, 12:42 PM
  #3
Weanling
I was out grooming them on Sunday and it was just a huge change from when I got them. I've only had them 2 months. The mare used to refuse to come into the barn until I left and I'd have to really chase her to catch her. Now she comes right in and I can do a full grooming without haltering her. It's been great. He was doing alright with the grooming but I did have to tie him up to do his feet. I don't know why he dislikes it so much but he does. I have started refusing to drop it and it's working. I would just like to have an easier time. He moves around so much it's hard to get him to stand still so I can grab a foot.

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Originally Posted by kittersrox    
My gelding was being a stinker with holding his feet for me. I could normally pick up his foot (although sometimes he would brace his leg and wouldn't let me pick it up). We had his old owner come out to help us, and we worked on picking up his feet for about 45 minutes. His old owner said that he had never been great with picking up his feet, and someone had told her to just hold his foot until he stops struggling.

Now, I understand it can be hard to hold on when you have a 1,000 pound animal trying to wrench his foot out of your hands, but it is possible! His previous owner lifted up his feet first, and it was scary to watch...She's probably only 105 pounds (and I'm like 115, two small girls). She held on until he stopped struggling, waited a few seconds, and then let go of his foot. She did that with all of his feet, then I took a try. He yanked a lot with me, but eventually we got to the point where he didn't struggle at all for the remainder of our time. Haha, then the farrier came out while we were working (he was a hour early) and said he could do his feet right then. Boy, Lookit was a complete angel!

I practice lifting up his feet every time I go out, and he keeps getting better :) Occasionally he will strike out with a front foot, but then I just take more time with his feet. I was even able to just go out into the pasture and lift up all of his feet very easily. If he had wanted to, he could have just ran away as he didn't have a halter or anything on.

So, just be patient and consistent. You'll have bad days (we all do!), but just try to fight through them!

Also, make sure you're careful, as I was left with some nice bruises after our first time working on it (hooves are hard!). My arms were really sore too...I had a fun time at work that day =P Remember, however much your horse likes you, he can accidentally injure you. The reason I say this is because I've heard someone say that they were scared of doing the feet thing at first, but then they thought, "Aw, he can't kill me." Psh! Yes he can! =P

Well, I hope you can get it figured out!
     
    01-03-2012, 09:42 PM
  #4
Banned
Squeeze his chestnut. He picks his foot up. Grab it, hold the hoof, and bend his fetlock joint until it is as far back (closed angle) as it will comfortably, easily go--no forcing, as you sure don't want to cause him pain. Now you have the leverage and control. Far harder for him to pull his hoof away.

     
    01-03-2012, 10:12 PM
  #5
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by bubba13    
Grab it, hold the hoof, and bend his fetlock joint until it is as far back (closed angle) as it will comfortably, easily go--no forcing, as you sure don't want to cause him pain. Now you have the leverage and control. Far harder for him to pull his hoof away.
Yes.. many folks I know that have a hard time are actually holding/cradling near the fetlock. If you hold the top of the toe, you have the leverage and most of the motion of trying to pull away will just cause the fetlock to bend leaving the hoof itself almost motionless. You'll be amazed at what a difference it makes.
     
    01-04-2012, 10:19 AM
  #6
Weanling
Thanks!!
     
    01-04-2012, 11:53 AM
  #7
Yearling
When I handle a horse's feet there are a couple of things I try to do. I try to always give it back before he takes it. At first I might only be able to hold it for a few seconds but if I never try to force the issue then pretty quickly they learn that it's no big deal and allow me to hold it up longer. If the horse struggles just a little bit in what I call an 'experimenting' way then I might try to hold on until he stops struggling and then set it down and start again. If I think he's going to take it away out of panic though I won't try to hold it.

Another thing I'll do is that when I pick the foot up I get into the working position as smoothly as I can. I'll try to feel the horse's balance and find the most comfortable position for the foot to be in where the horse can stand balanced and comfortable. I'll also make sure that the horse is balanced on all four feet in the first place, before trying to pick a foot up. I believe that one of the biggest reasons that horses snatch their feet away is because people pick the foot up roughly and pull them off-balance. So I'll make sure to avoid doing that if I can.

Sometimes they won't be good about picking up their feet when they're just not wanting to be there or stand still. That's when I'll get them busy doing something else (meaning transitions) until I get the impression that they're ready to stand. I won't even try to pick up their feet unless I'm pretty sure I'll succeed. If the horse is bad about standing and/or their feet this could take all day, but it's worth spending the time if you have it.

Here's a story about one experience I had. I once spent 8 hours with a pony Appaloosa mare who would flip over backwards, even when drugged, when anyone tried to handle her front legs. I'd work with her for 30 minutes, then leave her in the corral and go have a cup of coffee and come back in an hour. I did that all day long, never forced her, and just before the sun went down I got her trimmed. After that one day she would stand to be trimmed with the lead rope draped over her back. That mare really served to show not only how much could be done if I allowed her to be comfortable with the process but how much it was retained even weeks later when the farrier showed up.

That turned out longer than I planned. I can really go all day once I start, but I hope that helps anyway.
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