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        02-19-2013, 10:00 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Not sure what to do...

    So with my busy schedule and cold temperatures, I have not had as much time as I would like to spend with my horse. For the last 3 or so months I haven't had enough time to do anything but groom him a few times a week. He is an Ottb and is generally very sweet. Lately though, and I know this is due to lack of time I've spent with him, my horse has become very pushy and doesn't seem to like being touched very much. When I rub anywhere past his neck he swishes his tail and starts getting anxious and almost like he is in pain. I know he is not in pain because anyone else can touch him in the same manner and he is fine. Today I finally had a few extra hours to spend with him and decided to work on regaining ground manners. He picked them up relatively fast and I was able to lunge him for 25 minutes track right, however when we tried to switch directions he became irritated and many times tried to run in at me and kick at me. I was not asking him to do anything but walk at this point and he immediately started doing his crazy trot, head up and tilted to the outside, nostrils flairing, and then he would dart to the middle at me. It really scared me. I don't know what to do about this issue. Please help!
         
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        02-20-2013, 12:42 AM
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    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by littleredridinghood    
    So with my busy schedule and cold temperatures, I have not had as much time as I would like to spend with my horse. For the last 3 or so months I haven't had enough time to do anything but groom him a few times a week. He is an Ottb and is generally very sweet. Lately though, and I know this is due to lack of time I've spent with him, my horse has become very pushy and doesn't seem to like being touched very much. When I rub anywhere past his neck he swishes his tail and starts getting anxious and almost like he is in pain. I know he is not in pain because anyone else can touch him in the same manner and he is fine. Today I finally had a few extra hours to spend with him and decided to work on regaining ground manners. He picked them up relatively fast and I was able to lunge him for 25 minutes track right, however when we tried to switch directions he became irritated and many times tried to run in at me and kick at me. I was not asking him to do anything but walk at this point and he immediately started doing his crazy trot, head up and tilted to the outside, nostrils flairing, and then he would dart to the middle at me. It really scared me. I don't know what to do about this issue. Please help!
    Whether you have spent time with him or not that is very direspectful behavior and dangerous! When was the last time you lunged him? Do you use a training stick/string while lunging him? Drive him away with the stick, whack him if you have to.....chase him to let him know he did something you didn't like and he shouldn't do. Then go back to what you were doing like nothing had happened. If he comes in too close again, chase him off!! He's testing to see if you are the leader or him....stay safe!
         
        02-20-2013, 12:49 AM
      #3
    Foal
    Yes. I always have a lunge whip with me and it doesn't scare him. He still runs right at me. And he is large, 17.3hh, and yes, it is scary. He has never done this, even after having a year off. I just don't want to become scared of him and lose confidence because then the situation will only become worse. I thought about free lunging him but he wants to play with me like he does the other horses and turns his butt to me and bucks. It is frightening.
         
        02-20-2013, 12:51 AM
      #4
    Green Broke
    He is just being disrespectful. I recommend watching some videos of Clinton Anderson on his website. www.downunderhorsemanship.com Just click on the watch tv show online to see his videos.

    Do lots of ground ork with him!
         
        02-20-2013, 12:51 AM
      #5
    Foal
    It's almost like instead of running when he is startled by something he just kicks at it, so the lunge whip just makes him want to kick at it but if I don't have it he comes at me more
         
        02-20-2013, 01:36 AM
      #6
    Green Broke
    Why wouldn't he be irritated? You're working him going the same direction for 25 minutes? Mindless circles do no good except to sour a horse. You should be changing directions at least every 2 or 3 circles. Change when you do it. 1/4 circle, full circle, 1/2 circle, 2 circles, 1/4 circle, etc. You will keep his attention better and get more respect.

    It really doesn't matter what breed your horse is. That is not the cause of you problem. It doesn't matter how often you groom or work him. Not the problem either. He's fine with other people touching him but not you. That is telling you where the problem is. HE HAS YOUR NUMBER. He knows what buttons to push. He has learned what to do to make you nervous or scared. You get nervous or scared and you probably back off.

    Any bad or unwanted behavior needs to be corrected immediately. No hesitation. He needs to feel real uncomfortable about displaying such behavior. A lead horse in the herd would not show him any leniency. Neither should you. That doesn't mean to beat him but you do need to correct him.
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        02-20-2013, 02:15 AM
      #7
    Yearling
    Sounds like he is intimitating you somewhat.......I would free lunge him and make him stay on the rail and away from you......take after yelling NO and make him think you are going to kill him (lol we know you won't), whack him on the butt if he is too close, let him know that every time he comes that close he will get a whack.....
         
        02-20-2013, 02:20 AM
      #8
    Started
    If you really feel he will not stay out of your space in the round pen, you can take a plastic lawn chair in there to raise at him like a lion tamer or even throw at him if you have to in order to be safe. Have it next to you to grab if needed while you try to lunge with a lunge whip first.
         
        02-20-2013, 02:47 AM
      #9
    Super Moderator
    If the horse is comfortable going one direction, but not the either, I would be thinking about whether or not his back or hip is out of alignment. Things like that can cause a sudden change of behavior, toward the aggressive side.

    How does he move going each direction? Will he reach around to each side in order to get a carrot? Does he appear to be locked into a curve in one direction? If you view him from behind, is one hip noticeably higher than the other (when he is standing square on both feet, not with one leg cocked0
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        02-20-2013, 02:56 AM
      #10
    Foal
    I give him adequate time to stretch out before lunging him. His favorite thing in the world is rolling in the arena so I give him about 10 minutes of rolling around before lunging him. He does carrot stretches just fine and I away get several nice pops out of him. He seems to be moving fine in both directions, but yes, he does have my number. And the 25 minutes in one direction is how I've always lunged him. 25 one way. 25 the other and 15 or so minutes, depending on how much time I have, of ground work. I change up the 25 minutes by constantly having him change gaits, halting and picking up his gaits again and when he isn't being a holy terror adding trot poles in there too.
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