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        05-24-2010, 10:56 PM
      #11
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
    Nova can walk/trot/canter with almost perfect transitions ..and she now gets both leads and goes over trot poles and canter poles fine..
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    Wasn't it only a week ago that you didn't know how to get her into the correct lead? It is your choice but you had to know that when you post that you are jumping her people are going to critisize your decision. I knew what would be said in this thread as soon as I read the title. I really don't care if you jump her or not but you shouldn't be suprised when you get some flack about it. I think that this horse is quite well broke and only needs you to rise to her level but I think what will happen is you will either never realize her true potential or you will think you did far more training on her than you actually did. I hope it's the latter rather than the former.
         
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        05-24-2010, 11:38 PM
      #12
    Green Broke
    Its not that I didnt know how to get her on her right lead, well it WAS but wasnt.. like I had to get her off her shoulder and ask.. but she's now getting both leads [sometimes with a help of a ground pole on her bad side] and doing flying lead changes and changes over jumps.

    She's extremely well broke and Im glad I bought her she just needs ..like you said someone to bring her to her full potential which is my goal. Im not 'training' her really just kinda helping her get better at the stuff she already knows. :)

    But but but I cannnnn say I taught her to lunge haha! :P

    I really don't think its to early to jump her, she has the willingness, and the heart.. she just needs practice with everything really.

    She got better with her leads because I did lots of practice on using her backend more and just kept working at it.. so its going to be the same with this. The more she jumps the better she will get and the more balenced.
         
        05-24-2010, 11:44 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
    Its not that I didnt know how to get her on her right lead, well it WAS but wasnt.. like I had to get her off her shoulder and ask.. but she's now getting both leads [sometimes with a help of a ground pole on her bad side] and doing flying lead changes and changes over jumps.

    She's extremely well broke and Im glad I bought her she just needs ..like you said someone to bring her to her full potential which is my goal. Im not 'training' her really just kinda helping her get better at the stuff she already knows. :)

    But but but I cannnnn say I taught her to lunge haha! :P

    I really don't think its to early to jump her, she has the willingness, and the heart.. she just needs practice with everything really.

    She got better with her leads because I did lots of practice on using her backend more and just kept working at it.. so its going to be the same with this. The more she jumps the better she will get and the more balenced.
    That is absolutely not true at all. If you want her to get better and more balanced over the jumps, you need to quit jumping her for a while and focus only on flat work. Maybe you should consider getting yourself a trainer.
         
        05-24-2010, 11:47 PM
      #14
    Trained
    She got better on her leads because she learned how to balance with you on her back and fill in for you. No horse wants to be on the wrong lead. They don't like to feel unbalanced. I also find it hard to believe that a horse trained to ride english had never been lunged. As much as everybody on this forum talks about it I'm pretty sure that's also something she has done before.
         
        05-25-2010, 12:27 AM
      #15
    Trained
    HAF - Did you honestly think you were going to get responses telling you how wonderful it is and how you are doing such a great job? Do you actually stop to think what people might be feeling and responding before you hit the button to post a new thread that disregards all the advice given to you on this forum?

    The fact that she crashed through multiple jumps is proof enough that she should not have been at this show. Similar to what Kevin said about leads - NO horse wants to crash through a jump let alone multiple jumps. Most horses will get over the jump themselves or simply stop if not supported. I have never, in my entire riding career, seen or ridden a horse that has crashed through multiple jumps. It sometimes happens once, but it is rare that a horse isn't smart enough to realise it hurt and that they need to get over the next one. If that isn't happening, then it is entirly your fault as the rider and thinker of the pair for putting her in a situation she should not have been in.

    I gave up trying to give you advice threads and threads ago - Back before you sold Chance. I think just about everyone else is in the same boat. You really need to think, put yourself in our shoes, before you post your threads HAF.
         
        05-25-2010, 09:07 AM
      #16
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
    The more she jumps the better she will get and the more balenced.
    If horse is unbalanced on flat it'll be unbalanced on fences. And if she learns to jump incorrectly it'll be very hard to fix. That's why both my jumping instructors (with years and years of teaching and showing on national level) take us (me and my horse) VERY slowly to the jumping.

    HAF, no offense but instead of rushing her through everything I'd suggest to take couple months of consistent lessons with the good instructor. Nova is a nice horse and I have no doubt on that, don't screw her by rushing!
         
        05-25-2010, 10:30 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    OMG im about ready to post the video in a minute...

    She crashed through the first, went over the second, and third.. but knocked the rail because she dropped her back end to fast.. then ran out on the fourth...

    We went again and she went over them all perfectly.. dear god..

    And no she had no idea how to lunge, all the other guy did with her was free lunge her at a gallop over jumps..

    Im pretty much done posting really because this is ridiculous.
    It was a great day for both of us and she had fun and so did I and she got a lot of recognition at the show with people wanting to take pictures of her and what not. Its my choice to jump her.. and this whole show was for fun, no one got hurt.
         
        05-25-2010, 10:51 AM
      #18
    Green Broke

    I skipped one of the jumps because it was that corner she was having a hard time with and it would have set her up to fail again.
         
        05-25-2010, 11:21 AM
      #19
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
    SHe loves to jump anyways so why not just for the heck of it.
    This just makes me laugh.
    Why not? Because you are smarter than she is so you can make decisions that involve what is best for her and you.

    My horse loves to jump too. He HATES flat work. Boring....
    But while doing re-hab and getting him back into shape from time off we did the dreaded flat work.
    No jumping. Even though jumping is what he likes best!

    Though I admit I am confused. All those other threads where HAF insists she going to do lots of flat work and all that. Why do you suppose she bothered to post that? I mean really.....
         
        05-25-2010, 11:27 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    I don't get it. Why take the chance now, when you could wait a few months and have her working solidly on the flat and therefore, have her better set up for jumping. I have a horse who loves to run. Does that mean that I should just let him run? No. Once he and I are solid working at a walk, we move to a trot. From trot to canter. Etc etc.

    I am glad that you enjoyed yourself. Now step back and think about what is best for your horse in the long run. Why risk a possibly fantastic future for one or two "fun" shows?
         

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