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        08-02-2008, 06:32 PM
    Green Broke
    Yeah, you're going to have to depend less on the spurs. I had to do that with Duke because if I used spurs he would stop and then kick at them.

    What I did to get him to pick up the lope faster was to start scooping with my hips before he transition and "lift" him up into the lope with my legs. I squeezed and kinda pulled up at the same time.

    And to keep him from not responding to leg pressure I took a crop with me so that when he didn't transition in a timely manner he got tapped and then swatted on the rump by the crop. Eventually he learned that if he did it faster he didn't get hit.

    Hope that helps....
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        08-02-2008, 06:35 PM
    I'm not dependent on them though, which confuses me.
    I went a whole week without them and she picked up everything so much slower but she wasn't touchy.
    She doesn't kick at the spurs she just puts her head up and starts anticipating the lope.
        08-02-2008, 06:38 PM
    Green Broke
    That's what Duke did before he got this bad about the spurs. All excpet like the first two days before the show I always rode with spurs and a crop so that if he didn't respond to just a touch of the spurs he got a good hard tap. My goal was for him to move off of just contact from my calf.

    I'd reccomend you do a spurs/crop or rein combo. Or even not use the spurs and use just a crop or the reins and let her know that she has to transition faster. Make her want to make speedy transitions. It takes work and practice, but it really does pay off.
        08-02-2008, 08:03 PM
    If she's just anticipating the lope with your spurs, this is what I would do. Use your spur and/or calf to ask for a slight haunches in, like you were going to lope off. Then hold her there, and don't let her lope off. Contiue to funnel her like the other poster said with your hands. This will help to keep her head down. But whatever you do don't let her lope off. She will get frustrated for a bit, but she should eventually drop back down with her head into your hands. The second she does that, release your leg, release your hands, and let her walk in a straight line. Do this a few more times until she stays more relaxed. Then add the kiss, and maybe a bit more pressure with your leg and ask her to lope off. She may now resist the lope off a bit, but just continue to firmly ask her to go. It takes a while to get this together, but it really does work.

    This way of loping off is actually used in the show pen quite a bit. Imagine if you are walking and the class is asked to lope off, but you have 5 horses in front of you. You want to be ready to lope off as soon as the horse in front of you goes so that you don't hold up the class, but you don't want to go before the other horse, then you'll lose your place on the rail. So what you can do is set your horse up to lope off, but continue walking. So you use your outside leg/spur to move the haunchs in, but keep walking regularly. The horse is ready to lope off with a kiss, and will go easily and willingly. I also used this in pattern classes, walking up to or standing at the first cone. Prepare to lope off, then as soon as the judge nods their head, I kiss to him and off we go smoothly and quickly.
        08-02-2008, 10:22 PM
    Sandsarita, we sound like the same person! Lol that's EXACTLY what I do. <3
        08-02-2008, 10:38 PM
    Today I didn't use spurs and I associated the kiss with it because I normally don't kiss much and she did awesome!
        08-05-2008, 09:58 PM
    I'm glad it went better. Let us know if you need anymore help. Always glad to try!

    Mayfieldk - I know, it is weird how we have such similar ideas and apparently backgrounds. But hey, at least it's someone to back me up and so to help answer questions, especially when I just don't know how to word it, like with how you explained the funneling with your hands. I know how to do it, but not how to explain it :)
        08-06-2008, 03:25 AM
    And it's always good to hear another WP/HUS rider who wants their horse to work correctly, not just 'seesaw! Bump him in the face!'

    Good pleasure riding is SO much more then that.
        08-06-2008, 11:10 PM
        08-08-2008, 10:44 PM
    Green Broke
    Or Harlee can have Tara comeover and watch her again and keep telling her to do half haults and collecting her and dropping her. ;] Im glad she is doing better. I want to comeout and see her again

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