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post #1 of 9 Old 07-10-2011, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
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Oh, the dreaded fast gaits...

Well, I have started my mare back into riding. She is wonderful at the walk, she gives to the bit, she's slow, and listens. It is not until we start trotting and of course cantering when she becomes a pill. Her trot will start out slow for only a few seconds then she will start gaining speed, I immediately one-rein stopped her but she still does it afterwards. The last time we cantered was a while ago, I will try it again soon but she just doesn't know how to carry herself at a nice pace with myself on her back. Does anyone know what to do about getting her to slow down and relax? Her saddle fits great just a tip.

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post #2 of 9 Old 07-10-2011, 12:45 AM
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I can kind if imagine how that would go. I bet she starts trotting faster and faster which causes you to maybe lean forward a bit, 'cause it's hard to stay with that kind of a rushing trot. And of course, that only encourages her to rush more. Been there, done that.

Being as young as she is, she may need to move out a bit, so if you can, and you're in an arena which is enclosed and safer, you might let her move out a bit, for awhile. If she starts to get too wacky , work her in a smaller cirlce but not actually one rein stopping. Let her go for a bit in a smaller circle and try to keep your body kind of heavy and "slow", to encourage her to slow, When she does, you let her out of the smaller circle and see if she will hold a nice trot on a bigger cirlce (like the whole arena). If she starts rushing, go back into the smaller circle til she offers a slower gait.

I think doing the one rein stop constantly might be just making her really frustrated and wanting to work against you all the more.
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My mare hadn't been ridden in about ten years when I got her, and she did the same thing. She would trot OK but when asked to pick up the pace would go really fast, and cantering was very fast. I let her get it out of her system, rode it out, and before long at all she was able to hold nice, balanced cantering and trotting. She was just out of shape.
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post #4 of 9 Old 07-10-2011, 01:29 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you! I will definitely use this advice :)

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one rein stop is the enemy for the rushing horse. mechanically, they put the horse on the forequarters and the hindquarters "rushes" around the forehand. do that in a straight line (which is what the horse will do on it's own if you alternate directions with your 1 rein stop) and you've got a horse that piles it's weight onto the forehand, throws it's head in the air to keep from falling face first, and rushes with it's hindquarters (pushing the forehand further into the ground, throwing the head up more etc). 1 rein stop is a good thing to know, in that it will help regain control of a bucking/bolting horse, but it's not so useful for re educating them.

i would just do plenty of circles (with forwardness though, the point of the circles is to help her balance and find rhythm, rather than directly slow/stop her) and whenever she wants to get hasty, stop, backup then standstill untill she's contented standing still.
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Thank you Christopher! This was very helpful!

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one rein stop is the enemy for the rushing horse. mechanically, they put the horse on the forequarters and the hindquarters "rushes" around the forehand. do that in a straight line (which is what the horse will do on it's own if you alternate directions with your 1 rein stop) and you've got a horse that piles it's weight onto the forehand, throws it's head in the air to keep from falling face first, and rushes with it's hindquarters (pushing the forehand further into the ground, throwing the head up more etc). 1 rein stop is a good thing to know, in that it will help regain control of a bucking/bolting horse, but it's not so useful for re educating them.

i would just do plenty of circles (with forwardness though, the point of the circles is to help her balance and find rhythm, rather than directly slow/stop her) and whenever she wants to get hasty, stop, backup then standstill untill she's contented standing still.
Love this post. That is what I do with most my greenies...tons of circles, then stop-back-stand-go again to teach them cruise control. Works at all 3 gaits as well.

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Agreed, but the OP was talking about a horse that was scooting (trying to bolt, in her words) out of a spook. I don't remember her talking about the horse generally rushing or needing to learn to rate herslef. More a sudden spurt out of panic.

ETA disregard this> I got two thread mixed up, on simular subjects.

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Update, I did what everyone said, circles! And it worked very well, she was calm, listening better, and not freaking out. The wind did pick up one big time and she started spooking but I turned her into a circle and she came back and I stayed on! We also worked our way to a canter and she even transitioned nicely, even picked up her leads. Thank you everyone!

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