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    05-10-2010, 06:45 AM
Go and look on the English riding forum under the general section AND the dressage section. There are multitudes of threads on there asking about getting horses forward and yours is no different. I think you will find your answer there.
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    05-10-2010, 07:55 PM
I would, however I decided to make my own thread to thoroughly explain what's going on and get different takes on him as we move forward, not to read and hijak somebody elses, and I wasn't aware they were exactly the same- horses that would stop and stand and attempt to kick/buck/little rears when you asked them to move forward, forgive me for not thoroughly checking first.
    05-10-2010, 08:37 PM
Ah dear here we go again, another one fired up. Does give me a little giggle from time to time I must admit.

The underlying problem is the same as all the others. Doesn't matter if he kicks out or not, he does not respect your leg and thus the solution is the same as with all the other threads. People have given all the suggestions they have, I have not seen one new one on this thread.

Go and look on the board that I suggested, again, I believe you will find your answer there. You and your horse are NOT unique in your problem.
    05-10-2010, 08:43 PM
1. Motivating a Lazy Horse?

Yes, the title is different to yours, *shock horror* but yes, same problem. Horse does not respect the leg and chooses to ignore it. Same methods apply. Use them.
    05-10-2010, 08:55 PM
2. I have met my match!

Oh look, yep that's mine! That mare was the absolute pinacle of horses not wanting to move. I have ridden a multitude of lazy horses and within one ride got them travelling forward. Not this one. Would not move forward to ANYTHING.

So there's 3 full pages of advice in there for you about moving an extreme case of refusing to go forward.
No different to yours again, only more severe!
    05-10-2010, 09:03 PM
Kayty, I'm aware tone is hard to figure out over the internet but I wasn't 'fired up', my apology was, in fact, genuine.

If it bothers people so much that I made my own thread for my issues, I'll stop replying to this one.
Thanks to people who offered some advice!
    05-10-2010, 11:00 PM
Ok my error. Appologies, so many people seem to get worked up over nothing on this forum that I was just about waiting for it! Not a problem at all that you've made your own thread for it, but I just wanted to point out that you will definitely benefit from looking through those other similar threads as they have some very good answers and people who have posted a number of times about the same old 'my horse won't go forwards' threads are not going to bother posting in yet another. So your best bet is to go and check out the old ones.
    05-11-2010, 12:03 AM
Oh I get that, no worries. (:

The thing is, I know it's not just him being lazy, and it's frustrating... he has total respect for me on the ground, and then once I'm in the saddle it's like he switches gears- get off, and he's my absolute best friend. I'm not weak with him either, and he was better when I rode him on Friday, sadly his bit doesn't exactly fit and I'm not riding again until I can get another. I went to the tack store yesterday and they'd closed half an hour early, blah.

His previous owners, who had no problems with him, rode him in a kimberwick, and I did for awhile-no problems- switch to a snaffle and the problems slowly began.
I don't know if it was a coincidence or whatever, but could that have anything to do with it?
    05-11-2010, 12:17 AM
I really think he's just got your number in this case. If you're sure there's no soreness anywhere, I would put my money on it that he's just testing you out. Do you persist with asking him to go forward until he does? Or do you give up? If you are giving up, he has won the battle and will try it next time ;) The old owners were probably firmer with him and he knew he couldn't get it past them.
I would keep him in the snaffle. I'm a stickler for horses being ridden in a snaffle until they are confident and comfortable in it, and will accept it and work soft and round. He needs to deal with it, as long as it fits him he'll have to cope with it. As I just said, I really do think this is an issue of him having your number.
And as you said, you don't think he's lazy, well I definitely agree with you there, he's just being a little toad and trying his luck!
    05-11-2010, 12:21 AM
I persist.
That's why I'm confused, his old owners told me that after they were done training, they let their daughter who was a bit older than me ride him around and "he got to do whatever he wanted" so it didn't strike me as being firm, and the issues started about 6 months after I got him, he went well until then- my sister could ride him, she was 10 (he was very honest, she steered him toward a tree, he ran her into the leaves, but he did as he was told).
I'm switching him to a French Link to try it out, I've heard and experienced good things- and no more loose rings! I hate those things. H-a-t-e.

I'm going to have to be even more persistent, though like I said, I did manage to get him moving forward last time.

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