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  • Why has my bombproof horse started bucking me off

 
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    06-02-2012, 07:23 AM
  #1
Foal
Thumbs down Once Bombproof now total wuss! =(

So, I had my guy a year and half right and I've always done road riding. I don't have many safe places to ride in.

He has always been awesome on the road- trucks, milk tankers, vans, motorbikes, speeding idiots, trailers, furniture trucks, tractors, quad bikes... you name it, he never used to bate an eye at it. It was fantastic! You could happily trot/canter up the road with no issues. Other than a random spook that's non transport related.
Now a couple of weeks ago one of my neighbours dogs came up right up to rocky and started barking at him and he kinda tensed up but didnt do anything otherwise. Didn't think anything of it. Now a week or 2 after that we encounter the same dog in that same area of road and it starts approaching us next thing rocky starts shying of side and then starts bucking and dumps me. The ride home he was tense, as I guess you would be.
Today I rode him for the first time since the incident (roughly a week) stiches in my leg (non horse related) meant no riding =/ anyway, we came up to the same spot where it all originally happened and just my luck, a car with a trailer came past and rocky freaked, bucked and dumped me again in the SAME spot. He continued to spook at ALL the cars afterwards.

Im really bummed out. I don't fancy getting bucked off all the time. I've just been lucky that the dumping spot so far has been grass but what if next time its the road or worse a car you know?

Im going to lead him up and down the road instead when I go for morning walks and hopefully he regains his confidence otherwise I really don't have any other bright ideas.

Has anyone experienced this and overcome it?
Tips advice would be cool
=)
     
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    06-02-2012, 08:02 AM
  #2
Yearling
Lol he sounds like my gelding! He randomly for no reason,picked up a fear of cars coming at him from the front, didn't care if they came from behind. One day he decided that's not scary.soo now he's scared when they come from behind and not from the front. Lol not sure how to fix it but its Strange lol
     
    06-02-2012, 08:04 AM
  #3
Yearling
But of suggest getting off and walking him through the area he keeps dumping you at lol
     
    06-02-2012, 08:17 AM
  #4
Weanling
If you have access to a car, (yours/parents/friends) park the car on a lane and ride past it. Then ride past the car with the engin on, then with it moving slightly, then moving like a normal car would.

If you have a trailer you could attatch to the car as well, even better! Its just rebuilding his confidence that the cars wont eat him!
     
    06-02-2012, 08:57 AM
  #5
Showing
When during the first time the dog approached and the horse tensed, did you pat or rub him to soothe him? If so he would see this as a reward for his behaviour. If you also tensed then he knew for sure something was amiss. To add to this, when he first dumped you did you ride home or continue on? If home, then in his mind, if I do this and this, I get to go home. If you went home the second time you have inadvertently trained this behaviour in to him. Try taking him to that spot again, on foot, and see what his behaviour is like. Take your lunge whip. The moment he begins to hype up, make his circle you so that his butt makes bigger circles than his front end. No more than three circles, then walk on with the whip pointed down and behind you. When walking try not to look at him. If concerned, a quick glance. No petting and don't talk to him as to soothe. You can speak to him as tho chatting with a friend. Pick a destination farther ahead and aim for it. This squares your shoulders and that is what he watches. If a vehicle comes just keep going. BTW use a rope halter. Here's how this works. A new horse was unloaded and taken for a walk. New place. He spooked numerous times, each time the gal turned, make eye contact and petted him to soothe him. Each spook got worse. I had her pick out a destination about a hundred yards away and give the horse 3-4' of lead. She was to focus on the mark and just keep walking. The horse spooked once, didn't get the response, and was fine after that. She provided the leadership which is what he wanted.
     
    06-02-2012, 09:18 AM
  #6
Weanling
If its out of naughtiness that the horse is spooking then don't soothe him with pats etc like Saddlebag said, but if the horse is genuinly scared I keep up a monotone of verbal praise/soothing speech. It gives the horse something positive and constant to focus on. Pats come when the horse is behaving well and the montone is only broken if the horse is bad out of naughtiness, nappiness or anything of the sort. Fright is ok as a reaction, so long as the fright doesnt turn into naughty behaivoir, and the monotone is there to help stop the fear escalating into naughtiness
     
    06-03-2012, 09:36 PM
  #7
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
When during the first time the dog approached and the horse tensed, did you pat or rub him to soothe him? If so he would see this as a reward for his behaviour. If you also tensed then he knew for sure something was amiss. To add to this, when he first dumped you did you ride home or continue on? If home, then in his mind, if I do this and this, I get to go home. If you went home the second time you have inadvertently trained this behaviour in to him. Try taking him to that spot again, on foot, and see what his behaviour is like. Take your lunge whip. The moment he begins to hype up, make his circle you so that his butt makes bigger circles than his front end. No more than three circles, then walk on with the whip pointed down and behind you. When walking try not to look at him. If concerned, a quick glance. No petting and don't talk to him as to soothe. You can speak to him as tho chatting with a friend. Pick a destination farther ahead and aim for it. This squares your shoulders and that is what he watches. If a vehicle comes just keep going. BTW use a rope halter. Here's how this works. A new horse was unloaded and taken for a walk. New place. He spooked numerous times, each time the gal turned, make eye contact and petted him to soothe him. Each spook got worse. I had her pick out a destination about a hundred yards away and give the horse 3-4' of lead. She was to focus on the mark and just keep walking. The horse spooked once, didn't get the response, and was fine after that. She provided the leadership which is what he wanted.

****!! Yes I did all of the above!! Crap what have I done! The place where he dumped me is near the end of the road so its where we normally turn back to go home. I walked him the other day and he was fine. He's a very smart horse and learns things very quickly. I can't believe I taught him bucking! Ok so everytime he tenses, spooks I make him turn with his hindquarters in a circle around me? When Im leading him, should I be right next to him or slightly behind his head or infront of his head? I want to be the leader but I want him to trust my leadership when Im on him too.
     
    06-03-2012, 09:39 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by OwnedByAlli    
If its out of naughtiness that the horse is spooking then don't soothe him with pats etc like Saddlebag said, but if the horse is genuinly scared I keep up a monotone of verbal praise/soothing speech. It gives the horse something positive and constant to focus on. Pats come when the horse is behaving well and the montone is only broken if the horse is bad out of naughtiness, nappiness or anything of the sort. Fright is ok as a reaction, so long as the fright doesnt turn into naughty behaivoir, and the monotone is there to help stop the fear escalating into naughtiness
I see. So now that he's learned that spooks are rewarded, how do I correct it?
     
    06-03-2012, 10:02 PM
  #9
Weanling
When you are riding him and you feel him tense up turn him in a circle until he relaxes. A horse has a hard time bucking when his head is pulled around to his side. Maybe teach him to give to the bit on each side. I use this on new horses when I get on, it relaxes them. If he starts to buck, pull his head around before he gets it down. Once the head is down all you can do is hang on or bail. I would not be riding a bucker on the road though, he would be in the round pen meeting every scary thing I could find and learning how to control his fear
     
    06-04-2012, 04:58 PM
  #10
Foal
Yeh I usually do that in the arena but its I little harder on the road. First you have to check its safe to turn him before you do just in case a car is approaching and you turn straight into the cars pathway and by the time I've done that he's started to buck :(

@ saddlebag - should I be petting him when he doesn't spook?
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