One bit problem more...
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Horse Training

One bit problem more...

This is a discussion on One bit problem more... within the Horse Training forums, part of the Training Horses category

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        04-15-2011, 09:07 AM
      #1
    Weanling
    One bit problem more...

    At first, please if similiar thread has been opened please let me know. I was looking for it, but can't really find it.
    My 14 years old mare has a problem. She's not comfortable with bit. I have a snaffle (I belive it's called like that in english), bit like this:

    And bridle like this:
    IMG_3180.jpg

    Before I had her teeth done it was like that: when I came in the stable, with a bridle, she started opening her mouth. She turned and showed me her hind. When I was fastening the bridle she was opening her mouth. When I was riding her it was much better than some other horses. She wasn't hard on her mouth, or pulling me, absolutely nothing, only if she is nervous (if she got scared she started chewing it, for a minute after the scary thing went away).
    Then I called a vet and he brushed(?) her teeth. She doesn't open her mouth anymore when I come in her stable anymore, or shows me her hind. But she still is opening her mouth when I'm fastening the parts of birdle. When I'm riding her she is good, pnly if she is nervous she chews.
    She is very responsive when I'm riding and leg and my weight are enough to lead, turn, stop, etc. her. I hold reins very lightly and I was often yelled at by my trainer, because he wanted me to hold them short and all the time.
    Should I worry because she is opening her mouth when I'm bridling her? I know that if she didn't have the last one bond (that goes under the bit-on her nose) she would open her mouth when I ride her...
    I ride few times bitless, it's good, but I don't dare to go trail ridng without a bit.
    She was a showjuper before I got her, and she was ridden by numerous not so kind bits, additional reins and other stuff that helped her owner hold mare's head down. (Owner wasn't able to hold her head down-Candy just threw her head up and escaped from the pressure of the bit. Then she cantered where she wanted and it didn't end good when competing). Could opening mouth be because of that?
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        04-15-2011, 05:01 PM
      #2
    Foal
    Her noseband is too low down, the cavesson part should only be a couple of finger's width in front of her point of cheek. Maybe it is pressing on her nose?
         
        04-15-2011, 05:04 PM
      #3
    Foal
    This picture shows how it should be fitted:

         
        04-15-2011, 05:07 PM
      #4
    Weanling
    Thanks, I'll fix it tomorrow. Maybe this is a problem.
         
        04-15-2011, 05:13 PM
      #5
    Weanling
    It's definitely too low. I see it now. Plus the noseband I have it's a bit weird. It's not straight but it's lower on the nose...
    uzda.jpg
         
        04-15-2011, 07:18 PM
      #6
    Banned
    Do you absolutely have to use the noseband (is she bad without it? Does the trainer make you use it?)? If you can get away without it, I would.

    Opening the mouth for bridling isn't that big of a deal, though.

    What the vet did is called "floating" the teeth (at least here in the States), and it should be done at least annually.

    I wonder how she would do in a French link bit. It looks exactly like the one you have, but the mouthpiece has three parts instead of two, and many horses prefer it because it allows more room for their tongues.
         
        04-15-2011, 08:55 PM
      #7
    Super Moderator
    I agree to raise the nose band. This type of nose band should be two finger widths from the edge of her jaw bone. Make sure the flash band (which goes down around the front of bit) is not too tight. It should NEVER press down on her nostrils (where she takes air into her body)

    I think that the bit you are using for this horse is too FAT. She may have a very small mouth inside and when you put a thick bit inside, she feels like she is gagging (choking), so tries to open mouth and spit it out. Get a thinner bit and try a French link.

    This bit is one that I have used and is good and not expensive. The diameter of the mouthpiece is 13 mm.

    Dover Saddlery | AlBaCon French Link Loose Ring Snaffle Bit .
         
        04-16-2011, 06:12 AM
      #8
    Weanling
    Thanks everybody :)
    I've never rode a horse without nose band. I'll try though. Maybe it'll be good. But once when I took her flash band down, she was opening her mouth constantly.
    She had her teeth floated in the end of January and I'm sure her flash band isn't too tight.
    Currently I have 16mm diameter, before I had 21mm
    I'll definitely try a thiner french link bit.
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Possible Eye Problem Help? omgpink Horse Health 1 07-21-2010 02:57 PM
    On to the NEXT problem: aka HELP! Sunny06 Horse Tack and Equipment 57 10-14-2009 06:19 PM
    Old Problem Solved New Problem Arrived! HorsesAreForever Horse Training 5 04-25-2009 03:17 AM
    Um. Problem. Small_Town_Girl Horse Talk 1 04-30-2008 11:33 AM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:32 PM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0