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        01-14-2010, 02:24 PM
      #11
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    Originally Posted by PaytonSidesHorsemanship    
    I don't always mount from the right side, just every now and then so they are comfortable with either side.

    The spurs are just on my boots I'm not really using them on her. As of today I have started to teach this mare how to move her hips, ribs, and shoulders off of my leg and she still isn't really requiring much spur.

    We put all our horses in every gate from day one. We want the to really understand about going forward. The loping in the video is all there was, only a couple times around each way. We build on that as they become more fit and stronger.

    She is definitely lazy but you can bet that I'll make sure she has the discipline to go on. As for being tiring I'm not sure what you mean. If your saying you would be having to push her the whole ride then that is in no way true. I want my horses to always be on the verge of stopping or doping down a gate but never doing it until I say so. It's really simple to get this by letting them make the mistake of stopping or dropping the gate and then correcting it by sending them right back on. If you're consistent with that they will gain the discipline to stay in that gate.
    Thank you. I too mount occassionally from the off side but I am clumsy like a novice , unco-ordinated.

    I too wear spurs all the time.

    I am use to arabs, energetic arabs. Arabs that you can pick a good pace and hold it for hours without having to bump the horse to keep the pace.
    I don't want a horse that will quit at the first chance it is given.

    Like Kevin I think you rode the horse very well and she will make someone a great mount.
    Just not me.

    Thanks again and nice video
         
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        01-14-2010, 02:28 PM
      #12
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    I don't see a thing wrong with the way that filly was ridden. She is naturally a calm and slow horse (which is the kind I would video and put on a website). She isn't the kind of horse that is going to make an endurance horse so it's better for everyone if she doesn't have an excessive amount of drive. She will make a nice reiner or cowhorse unless the people that own her insist on using a bosal if they don't really know how.

    She is nicely under control and I don't think she will have a problem with turning around when she spooks.

    They would like to ride her in a bosal and I think she'll be good with it. Although I'm probably about to go ahead to the snaffle tomorrow and then come back to the halter later. The owner is a consistent client so we'll be able to keep right either way.

    Thanks for the kind remarks
         
        01-14-2010, 02:30 PM
      #13
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    I think you are doing a fine job.
         
        01-14-2010, 02:33 PM
      #14
    Foal
    I like your video, I have broke a few a few of my horses myself, and have had very good luck, the more time you spend with them and the more you do to them , pays of in the end. Having a yearling , then let them stand around forever and just throw them food is not going to make for a great , session in breaking them. I was very consistent with everything, I to mount from both sides, I want them to be acclimated to everything....Great Job!! :) Now I stick to the Miniatures, and only one rescue for now...
         
        01-14-2010, 02:34 PM
      #15
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by RiosDad    
    Thank you. I too mount occassionally from the off side but I am clumsy like a novice , unco-ordinated.

    I too wear spurs all the time.

    I am use to arabs, energetic arabs. Arabs that you can pick a good pace and hold it for hours without having to bump the horse to keep the pace.
    I don't want a horse that will quit at the first chance it is given.

    Like Kevin I think you rode the horse very well and she will make someone a great mount.
    Just not me.

    Thanks again and nice video
    Yeah it's just a difference in riding disciplines. For our uses we want them to be praying to be able to stop every step that way we can build a big stop later on. For most of or western uses the stop is just as important if not more important that the go.
         
        01-14-2010, 03:18 PM
      #16
    Foal
    First off I wish we lived closer because after watching this vidoe and hearing what you have to say I wouldsurely love for you to put some rides on my 5 year old. I have been having her trained and the trainer got sick had some problem and then with the holidays stopped and has never started. We really had to work on our gaits with her. All she wants is fast so her trot is fantastic now but can't get her to slow down the lope and collect herself. This is a great video and fantastic looking horse. You sound like you know what you are doing! Do you know what you want to use her for? GREAT JOB.
         
        01-14-2010, 03:22 PM
      #17
    Trained
    Not bad over all. My only thing is I prefer to have them guiding before I ever ask them to lope. I spend much more time at the beginning getting them to move every inch of their body before ever getting them to lope. Once they are doing it all from the walk then up to the trot then up to the lope. By the time they are loping they are guiding very well stopping hard and usually needing plates by then.
         
        01-14-2010, 05:12 PM
      #18
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by jesredneck98    
    First off I wish we lived closer because after watching this vidoe and hearing what you have to say I wouldsurely love for you to put some rides on my 5 year old. I have been having her trained and the trainer got sick had some problem and then with the holidays stopped and has never started. We really had to work on our gaits with her. All she wants is fast so her trot is fantastic now but can't get her to slow down the lope and collect herself. This is a great video and fantastic looking horse. You sound like you know what you are doing! Do you know what you want to use her for? GREAT JOB.
    Many Thanks. Her owners really just have their horses to have and ride when they feel like it but I think they may be interested in seeing her go and do something. I would like to see her go in the Reining direction but we may just do some local things as an all around type horse.
         
        01-14-2010, 05:21 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Looked good to me. Takes courage to put your work up on an Internet forum where anyone can come out of the woodwork and critique it to pieces.

    Not sure what the end goal is, but looks like she could be an open show level (maybe breed show level) performance horse; depending on how cowy she is and her interest in stopping.
         
        01-14-2010, 05:35 PM
      #20
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by sillybunny11486    
    I've never seen "changing direction" to be a good thing to do if a horse spookes. I had a horse who I did that with and he ended up changing direction on his own to avoid what ever spooked him.
    Doing something like changing direction CAN help with what he is talking about because it helps the horse refocus on YOU, and NOT what he is spooking at, so he learns to focus on you, rather than his surroundings, the more you mentally occupy his mind, especially from the beginning.

    I too do all three gaits within the first few rides...not forever, mind you, but I don't putz around, I can refine later, but I like to know that they will do it for me from the beginning. It also helps with resale, if that's the case, and if they are being trained for someone, I can't wait until the last 5 days to know the horse will canter...he should already know his leads when I send him home.
         

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