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post #21 of 27 Old 01-14-2010, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mom2pride View Post
Doing something like changing direction CAN help with what he is talking about because it helps the horse refocus on YOU, and NOT what he is spooking at, so he learns to focus on you, rather than his surroundings, the more you mentally occupy his mind, especially from the beginning.

It can also keep them light on the front end too. Do a lot of turning and other work to keep horses light on the front end when stopping.

I too do all three gaits within the first few rides...not forever, mind you, but I don't putz around, I can refine later, but I like to know that they will do it for me from the beginning. It also helps with resale, if that's the case, and if they are being trained for someone, I can't wait until the last 5 days to know the horse will canter...he should already know his leads when I send him home.
If you are training a horse whose owners are only going to send them for 30-60 days or so yes by all means get them lopping right off. However for me at least. I am in it for the long haul. I know when I send a horse to the trainers I am looking at at the very least a 2 year contentment. So I do not care if the horse is loping or chaining leads at 60 days or even 90 days. I want a good solid foundation that you get when you take it slow. Plus when you send them very early in their 2yo year by starting them at just the walk and making them move every inch of their bodes before you ever start them loping you gain so much more in the end.

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I won't train a horse to lope for anyone. I refuse to train it on a new horse. I want him well balanced and muscled up before I will begin training the lope.
I always beleived that trotting is like putting money in the bank and loping/cantering is a withdrawl. You better have money saved before you start withdrawing or you end up with trouble.
My own endurance horses trot , trot and more trotting. Later in life they will do mostly loping but not for years.
I teach turning, backing and sidepassing and a good stop right off, then I do miles and miles of conditioning throwing in the backing and sidepassing along the trail. I also love gates and out of my way to pass through one. It gives me the opportunity to do all the exercises he has learned to move his body.
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Very nice looking horse, and a solid looking foundation you've put into her groundwork. I love how calm and relaxed she is in all her gaits riding in the big pen for the first time...seems you got her refocussed quite well.

I personally never use spurs unless I've got a dead sided horse and even then it's just to remind them I'm there...but if you wear them all the time then you know how to use them effectively. I'd worry that I'd bump them unintentionally. I also don't canter until they've got walk, trot, stop, yields, and their steering down pat - but what works for one doesn't always work for the other and what you're doing is working for this filly.

Looks like you're doing a good job with that filly - hope to see more updates as she progresses!

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post #24 of 27 Old 01-15-2010, 02:36 PM
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Ah to lope or not to lope that is the question. To think stop or not to think stop that is the other question.

Lope em and get them thinking stop right from the beginning and life is good. Add more loping as their fitness progresses and the majic "cut" of their hind end takes shape.

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Originally Posted by RiosDad View Post
I always beleived that trotting is like putting money in the bank and loping/cantering is a withdrawl. You better have money saved before you start withdrawing or you end up with trouble.
I believe you have stated time and time again about the miles and miles of cantering you do.
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post #26 of 27 Old 01-15-2010, 02:42 PM
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I agree with Kevinshorses ..
I don't see any problem with the way that filly is being trained.

Everyone has a different way of going about training their horses.
Whatever works for them.
I think it was nicely done :)
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post #27 of 27 Old 01-16-2010, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mls View Post
I believe you have stated time and time again about the miles and miles of cantering you do.
With my old guy that is all I do. I would honestly head out north on the snowmoblile trails and keep him working for about 1 1/2 hours at a steady laid back lope and then turn around and lope home in about 1 1/4 hours but BUT he had the years of building up his legs, his endurance.
I don't lope babies, I don't lope 3 year olds, I don't lope much in the first year. NOt until the horse is legged up.
A few years down the road, a few thousand miles later I will spend more and more time at a lope.

this is him after a long lope. Notice he is trimmed, shaved to keep him cool. I don't worry about breathing, just how hot he is running

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