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post #1 of 14 Old 06-11-2013, 08:23 AM Thread Starter
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Other Riders on My Horse

My horse is testy and I just now am getting to the point where he knows better than to step on my feet, walk ahead of me, run me into trees, rear, walk back to the barn, etc. I have got my confidence up and you can tell that he is giving up on pushing me around. He goes where I say at the speed I say and in the direction I say(this is debatable as we are working on walking straight lines. It is a ridiculous problem for a nine year old trained horse to have). As of now I would say that he is not safe to be ridden by anyone other than me or a trainer.

I do not want this to be the case. What can I do so that he will eventually be safe with my brothers/sisters?
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post #2 of 14 Old 06-11-2013, 08:46 AM
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When you walk with him are you looking farther away and keeping your concentration there. Often how we walk is reflected in the horse. Square up your shoulders (think soldier) and walk like one, intent on going somewhere. Your horse is watching your shoulders. This also works when riding, focus on something at the end to the arena and ride to that. Don't look down at the ground in front of him. If you find yourself doing it, ask yourself if you are picking out a spot to come off. When you focus on that distant spot your body will be aligned and he feels it.
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In addition to the work you do now, add on sacking out. Scare-proof him as a part of the usual routine. I extra-proofed my mare for kids by desensitizing her to things running by her, at her, and sudden noises. She was already trained as a police mount, so there wasn't much to fight her on. I did do practice with treats, as many people like to "feed the pony" and bad manners about treats won't save anyone's fingers. I did that by doing some at-liberty work with treats, at the end thoroughly rubbing her nose and face. Don't ask me why, but rubbing the horse's lips and nose after feeding them tends to decrease the nipping and mouthing behavior... especially if you flick 'em on the nose if they still try to nudge you.

Accept that he might never be safe with kids or beginners until he is elderly. You can do your best to proof him so that anything a passer-by would do is tolerated, but it's possible that he will not be able to tolerate handling by beginners until he has many more miles on him and some of the fire gone from his eye. After all, I don't think you got him for your family, right? You probably got him for yourself? I sympathize; I got my mare for me, and even though she is the most quiet I can have her on a daily basis, I cannot trust her as much in heat with the neighborhood mares as I do out of heat. She lets my non-horsey family be around her and sometimes lead her, also ride at a walk under my eye, and that's it. She scares my younger sisters to death with her big trot. My solution was to get a bunch of small donkeys... enough to ride and handle, enough to tell them what for if they make an obvious mistake.
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thanks :\ i did want him to be a good beginner horse as that is what i bought him for. My parents are those listen to me cuz the bible says so types and they force me to allow my siblings to ride. I am scared one of them is going to get hurt but they don't care. So I figured I would try to work on him. He has just got too much fight in him.
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thanks :\ i did want him to be a good beginner horse as that is what i bought him for. My parents are those listen to me cuz the bible says so types and they force me to allow my siblings to ride. I am scared one of them is going to get hurt but they don't care. So I figured I would try to work on him. He has just got too much fight in him.
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So your parents aren't really horsey people? Neh. In the first year I had my mare on my father's farm, my father thought she was a dog and he could simply shove her around. I had him try to round pen her, which showed him a bit of the business end, then later he kept hugging her neck without letting her go and she finally broke out of his arms and continuously avoided him when he appeared. He really got the idea when my neighbor's horse kicked him and my mare learned that this particular human was one to disrespect ;)

I decided to be a Born-Again Christian, and he was a rigid type of Catholic, so yeah, he would stick the younger kids on my mare without asking me or letting me know. So I gave him what he asked for an let the kids have little lesson rides, both of them fell off and one decided to actually JUMP off my horse and landed so awkwardly at a slow jogging trot mind you, that the kid broke a wrist. My father has a mental disorder and always was unbearable, it's just something I had to accept and try keeping the kids alive. Nobody messes with her now.... especially since I know how to piss her off for a second to have her look mean. It's an old deceitful cowboy's trick to make a potential client's horse look psycho without the cowboy himself doing anything obvious. Honestly, I'm not proud of the skill but it comes in handy sometimes with no real expense to the horse or me.

I would think that if they actually saw you have a session with him and saw him acting up, they'd know to back off!

But, is it possible that the kids will be satisfied being led around on a pony ride? Like, leading the horse in hand while the kid sits on at a walk doing nothing? If you can get him polite in hand, I think this should be quite possible. When my mare's in a bad estrus, I always gallop her out first and have a full riding session before putting kids on for being led around. As far as the horse is concerned, it's a cool down with a little weight in the saddle. You can bring him far. It's just a pain in the butt and often feels like you're getting nowhere.

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Not all horses are suitable for young/begginer handlers or riders regardless of how much training they get. So much of that depends on their temperament.

Just solid, steady, consistent training to be obedient. He needs to learn that there are consequences to his misbehaviors that are severe enough to make him re-consider before doing it again.
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post #7 of 14 Old 06-11-2013, 11:23 PM
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If you are "just now" getting things straightened out for you? Then you aren't ready to be riding him would be my thought.

It does not take that long to have a horse that won't step on you, forge ahead of you, and be easy to work with. The fact that you are still apparently having problems tells me a lot.

This is less a horse problem than it is a owner problem.

You need better horse handling skills.

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post #8 of 14 Old 06-11-2013, 11:36 PM
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Ok. Some horses take longer to retrain than others. Some challenge authority constantly.

And you have to learn sometime.

This horse is responding positively towards the OP, which means she is doing something right, not something wrong. It may have taken the OP some time to figure it out, but she is figuring it out. For that she should be praised, not put down.

Anyways, my suggestion is to continue to work with the animal as you always have. Until the horse is "bomb proof" with you, and has been this way for quite some time, you shouldn't introduce anyone else to his back. If he's just starting to act nicely for you, don't shake it up. Get him ingrained in the behavior until he is solid and consistently like this for you all the time, every day and a long while.

Then when you trust and know him enough to read his reaction, introduce other people or kids.
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post #9 of 14 Old 06-12-2013, 12:15 AM Thread Starter
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I just got the horse a month ago the problems arised a week ago and I got them under control in about 3 days. Sure a more experienced rider could have prevented them entirely but sue me I was learning.

And to fix a rearing problem, backing problem, leading problem, standing still problem, and other disrespect issues as a beginner..... I have impressed myself.

Thank you everyone for your kind responses :) I work with my horse every single day and that includes a lot of ground work. I think you are right and he definitely needs more miles on him. He is 9 but I am not sure how much he has actually been worked with.
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