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    06-29-2010, 10:48 PM
  #21
Foal
My ottb gets antsy when the wind picks up really bad. I've never had her spook, she only did once when someone else rode her and I think that was because she's kind of a one person mare. Not to hijack the thread but did any of you guys have a problem mounting your ottb? Mine just doesn't want to stand still.??
     
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    06-30-2010, 01:55 AM
  #22
Trained
VintageMatch, I've had problems getting the to stand still before, Hugo has been my only ottb that has stood stock still from day one haha!
The others have all had ants in their pants when it comes to getting on. When they move, I put them to work, make them yield their shoulders rather than just spin them around in a circle, move the crate back to them and try again. My record was half an hour! But as soon as she stood still and let me get on, I sat on her for a minute or so just standing still, then got off and put her away. Hardly had much of a problem again
     
    06-30-2010, 06:36 PM
  #23
Trained
I want to emphasise Natural Horsemanship to all those who are learning about handling their OTTBs and dealing with them on a daily basis.

Clinton Anderson most specifically - go pick up his DVD's or go to your local Lybrary and check him out *that sounds wrong...* and really learn about how to use yourself to benefit your OTTB and their mind.

I am not talking about getting into the stupid "games" and buying all their "gadgets" because you don't need that crap to do NH. Speaking horse is speaking horse, regardless if you have a Carrot Stick or not. I don't play the games, I don't buy all the garbage gadgets to do basic NH, but what I do find is that spending the time with your horse on the ground establishing trust, a relationship and a pecking order, while learning to use your body and theirs to communicate is benefital during all the years you'll be together.

What I've learnt is that you have to remain quiet and calm when dealing with OTTBs and TB's because of how they work mentally, and basic NH teaches you this. Learn repetativeness, learn dilligence, learn how to gage what is going to happen, before it happens and etc, etc, etc.

I do basic NH every single day when I am around my horse and other OTTB's that boarders ask me to help them with.

Look into it :) Again, you don't have to go all out, basic NH is benefitial enough to help fill in those gaps that are apparent.
     
    07-04-2010, 08:10 PM
  #24
Yearling
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Originally Posted by SaratogaTB    
My OTTB is nearly Hero's age. How many times did Hero race?!
Hero raceed about 53 times....but do I have to mention he only won 6 times :) He is such a lazy pony.
     
    07-04-2010, 10:49 PM
  #25
Foal
Sousa can beat that!! He ran 64 times and won ONCE! I think he finished 2nd and 3rd 7 times each. Also lazy, but that makes him just right for me! We had our best work ever today and cantered for the first time since going back to walk/trot work only. Just once around each way, he was a star! Calm, cool, and collected. I recently bought a "wither relief" extra pad to go under his saddle, and it may be a coincidence, but he's been better since getting it. He's also had 2 chiropractic sessions which may also have helped. I love having such a good day with him!




[QUOTE=HeroMyOttb;680503]Hero raceed about 53 times....but do I have to mention he only won 6 times :) He is such a lazy pony.[/QUOTE
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    07-05-2010, 04:04 PM
  #26
Foal
OK, so here is another OTTB question: right now, as we are taking our training slow and steady, I am standing up a bit (two point) to get off his back when I ask him to canter. I read that OTTBs associate sitting back with stopping. To drive him forward in the canter, I take the weight off, bridge the reins and ask him to go. I let him canter down the straight away, and then ask him to transition to a steady trot, then ask for the canter again. Honestly, a few strides and I am happy, especially if the lead is right.

My question is this: I want to eventually be able to do a nice canter, hunt seat style, sitting in the saddle. How do I introduce adding more weight to the saddle in the canter? Or, do I just forget about that for the time being and work on his balance, transitions, etc?
     
    07-05-2010, 06:24 PM
  #27
Trained
I'm glad you're standing off his back in canter! Not many people do and then belt their horses when they don't canter!
I start to sit lightly on their back once they're comfortable picking up and maintaining the canter without rushing around with their head stuck up in the air, and can start to stretch their back in trot and hold transitions well.
I'll sit in a light forward seat so they can feel me on their back, but I'm not sitting 'into' them. Once they're good with that, I'll sit a little deeper, until I'm able to sit back in a dressage seat and drive them forwards using only my seat ;)
Hope that helps!
     
    07-05-2010, 06:39 PM
  #28
Foal
Kayty, I understand and also appreciate your wisdom here. We are basically doing what you recommend. However, my OTTB actually has his head LOWER than I would like. I don't give him resistance so he cannot "hang on the bit" (I think that's what he is trying to do). My worry is this: isnt a dropped head a sign of a possible impending buck? I worry that I need to pull his head up to make this work.

I find that even a few strides, then back to a nice steady trot is enough right now.

We had been cantering before, but he started cross-firing every few strides, so I backed off and went back to trot balancing work. I only just started the canter again this week, but very slowly.

The advice here has made such a difference! Thanks to all of you. My OTTB has been such a rewarding adventure. I wish I could win the lottery and help every OTTB transiton to a new career post-racing. They sure deserve the chance after running their hearts out.

On another note: my guy doesnt budge during mounting OR dismounting. He stands quietly next to the mounting block and doesnt move at all. The only time that wasnt the case was when he saw a deer in the field, which scared him.
     
    07-05-2010, 06:50 PM
  #29
Trained
Not necessarily. Stretching their neck down is actually a good thing if they don't start to get 'humpy' and cranky, it will help open his back ;) However you do need to make him accept a contact, as he'll learn to bare down on the reins to evade any contact on the bridle. So start early, make him have a contact all the time. I rarely work an ottb with loops in my reins, they've also got a little contact there, not pressure as such, but they can feel that I'm there. Otherwise you do end up with them thinking that they can evade contact when you start to pick it up.

To get his head up a little, use more leg. You can't pick his head up with your reins (look at the size of your arms vs his neck!!), so put your leg on, look up and demand that his head not drag on the ground!

I've just put up some recent photo's of my boy, who's been ott since october last year, spelled for 6 months and only had about 2 months of ridden work - in picture thread under 'my big grey beastie today'. THAT is how I like to see an ottb working as far as where their head is, however this was only 3 /4 days in from his month off, and he's pretty yucky behind, ideally he is usually over tracking.
Might give you an idea of what to aim for anyway!
     
    07-05-2010, 06:58 PM
  #30
Foal
Why do you think he pins his ears when we start the canter?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayty    
Not necessarily. Stretching their neck down is actually a good thing if they don't start to get 'humpy' and cranky, it will help open his back ;) However you do need to make him accept a contact, as he'll learn to bare down on the reins to evade any contact on the bridle. So start early, make him have a contact all the time. I rarely work an ottb with loops in my reins, they've also got a little contact there, not pressure as such, but they can feel that I'm there. Otherwise you do end up with them thinking that they can evade contact when you start to pick it up.

To get his head up a little, use more leg. You can't pick his head up with your reins (look at the size of your arms vs his neck!!), so put your leg on, look up and demand that his head not drag on the ground!

I've just put up some recent photo's of my boy, who's been ott since october last year, spelled for 6 months and only had about 2 months of ridden work - in picture thread under 'my big grey beastie today'. THAT is how I like to see an ottb working as far as where their head is, however this was only 3 /4 days in from his month off, and he's pretty yucky behind, ideally he is usually over tracking.
Might give you an idea of what to aim for anyway!
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