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OTTBs and spurs?

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        12-11-2009, 11:46 PM
      #21
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
    "Lazy" horses just need motivation and incentive. They need a reason to go forward, they need to know something is in it for them.
    I would say not getting stuck with the spur is a pretty good incentive and one that a horse can understand.
         
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        12-11-2009, 11:53 PM
      #22
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    I would say not getting stuck with the spur is a pretty good incentive and one that a horse can understand.
    Hear, hear!

    I believe the horse needs to know that go means go means go, and they can either go when I ask nicely, or go when I get meaner about it. And off that note, you need to know when and how to end on a good note for the spurs to be an effective "incentive."
         
        12-12-2009, 12:26 AM
      #23
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    I would say not getting stuck with the spur is a pretty good incentive and one that a horse can understand.
    haha I always love your posts kevinshorses !!
         
        12-12-2009, 11:33 PM
      #24
    Foal
    I go from leg to a bat crop. If they don't respond to my leg presure I correct them with a pop of the bat right behind the leg. This works very well for babies the get lazy in those first 6 months of training. Also riding in an open field and on trails is great inspiration to move forward. Good luck.
         
        12-13-2009, 12:45 PM
      #25
    Started
    Using pain in order to get a horse to go? Not my idea of good horsemanship ;)
         
        12-13-2009, 12:58 PM
      #26
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    Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
    Using pain in order to get a horse to go? Not my idea of good horsemanship ;)
    Good thing your idea is just that yours. Nothing wrong with your opinion, and nothing wrong with others opinions
         
        12-13-2009, 01:07 PM
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    I simply try to look at it from the horse's perspective. Spurs should not be used to get horses to go. Plain and simple. I wouldn't want to be spurred in the side, and I'm darn certain horses don't want to be, either.
         
        12-13-2009, 01:11 PM
      #28
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    Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
    I simply try to look at it from the horse's perspective. Spurs should not be used to get horses to go. Plain and simple. I wouldn't want to be spurred in the side, and I'm darn certain horses don't want to be, either.
    I don't want to get grounded, suspended, or yelled at, so I do my homework, behave, and obey rules. Nor do I want to get spurred, but it would be a very good incentive to do what I'm asked.

    My horse doesn't want to get smacked with the crop or spurred, so he listens to my leg.
         
        12-13-2009, 01:32 PM
      #29
    Weanling
    Spirithorse, I usually agree with you, but in this case I think you're using the idea of "pain" as some kind of torture. If you think of it as "pressure" to which the horse learns to yield, would it make more sense?
         
        12-13-2009, 02:06 PM
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    Dealing with other people and dealing with horses are two completely different matters. Sure, people respond to the threat of being grounded, but here again is where predators and prey animals think differently. The idea of using a spur as an escalation of aid would be correct, but the application IMO is not the best way to deal with a lazy horse. It's force....and force doesn't just mean beating a horse. Force comes in many, many different forms....from things that are deemed acceptable to abuse, and everything in between. We shouldn't have to get stronger with a horse, we need to use pshychology and understand what these types of horses need....making their body go with the use of a spur does not engage the mind, and with these kinds of horses it's a MUST that we engage their mind. I like the idea that the rider will know they are ready for a spur when they don't think they even need a spur, that their horse is so responsive and light that they might not even see a need for a spur (even for higher level maneuvers).
         

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