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post #11 of 22 Old 03-29-2013, 04:59 PM
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Much depends on mare in how well this turns out.

Some mares will not tolerate interference well and may reject foal too, and milk replacer is expensive.

I don't like handling foals much, other than iodine/enema, they are left alone for a while, until things settle down.

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I've never seen handling a foal cause a mare to reject one. They usually do that all by themselves. But, we will not tolerate a mare being ill about her foal or herself. I want to be able to handle a foal from day 1 because I do not want problems doctoring one that needs it. I do not want problems doctoring or handling a mare, either.

We use Oxytocin after foaling and we flush mares at 3 days. We flush them again and give Oxytocin again if they are nasty or enlarged at 3 days. We usually do an immunity test at 12 horses on a foal. We will put a mare in the stocks and cross-tie her and handle her foal -- like it or not.

If I didn't have the stocks with a foal trap next to them, I would tie the mare in a safe place and do what I wanted with her foal.

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well with me handling my mare's foal from day one it sure deter him from nursing LOL everyone said let him be, Mom will let him know.....well I kept watching, he was close to a year old, Mom would nip at his butt when he would go to nurse and he would turn, double barrel her with his hind legs and then body slam into her.....she would let him nurse! I finally had to seperate him from his Mom, he would still be on his knees nursing over a year old I'm sure!
Glad to hear it's going well, time and patience is great to have instead of forcing the issue...

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A mare SHOULD protect the baby, and a maiden mare is more likely to be (over) protective and worried (which is problematic for milk too). Never tie her, or reprimand her for doing what nature is telling her to do. Halter and hold her, and handle the foal daily. Halter the baby (lots of changing sizes quickly), and handle it daily/pick up feet/etc), but have a handler hold the mom. This is important, but a horseman should be doing it NOW, (not for someone who does not know behaviors. Sounds like she has adapted easily and is being a good mom. For sure, the foal should be getting out asasp to move, cavort, etc.
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Never tie her, or reprimand her for doing what nature is telling her to do.
I guess you've never had one came after you snapping like an alligator, pawing at your head with both front feet and ears buried flat. Ask my husband how that works. He had a maiden mare get him down before we got her tied up. It took the two of us (to keep her from getting either one of us down) to get her to a place to tie her up. Turned out we need to IV the foal with IgG for an unacceptable antibody levels.

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^^^^^THAT^^^^^^^ is exactly why I don't tolerate nonsense from mares, or any horse really, before during or after foaling, they still all know that I am in charge and they will behave or else. I've handled way too many mares, maiden or not, who turned into alligators as soon as they had a foal. That's fine for keeping other animals off, but they are NEVER allowed to behave that way around ANY human. EVER. PERIOD.
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Leave them alone. You don't want to stress the mare, she needs to nurse and be a good mother. Imprinting is a bunch of BS IMO anyway. Let her mother her baby, there's plenty of time after the foal is weaned to introduce yourself. Get a halter on the baby and leave them alone.

If she's nasty, she has to be corrected, so I would avoid the situation all together and give her time.
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Read the rest of the comments, rather than taking it in part. But in addition, Never had a mare attack with 30 mares a year with babies/yearlings/etc. The mares are handled in the first place, and they are haltered when handlers are in the stall with the baby early on. It is thought out process to breed a mare/have a foal/make them into solid citizens rather than lion tame a horse after the fact.. Read the OP, little knowledge of mare/foals/etc
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That is all well and good until you train for the public and stand stallions to the public.. You get in every spoiled, ill-mannered dink to foal out and to re-breed. I had it in the breeding contract that all mares needed to be 'halter broke trained to be handled'. I still got in untouched idiots that had only been range-bred and run like cattle before they decided they wanted to breed them to something better than a range stud. Then, they had someone else haul them that was on their way to somewhere else so you could not send them home. When you live in ranch country, you get in ranch mares. They have been handled somewhere from little to none and their natural instincts have not been tamed. You had better know how to take care of them and how to take care of yourself.

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Time for an update. After reading all the various suggestions, I tied the maiden mare to a sturdy hitch rail and knelt down just beyond the range of the mare. The foal was immediately curious of me and walked right over. Mom was a little agitated for the first minute, but soon realized two things: I wasn't doing anything to hurt her foal and she couldn't do too much about it 'cause she was tied. That day, I kept the session to about 4-5 minutes before petting and praising the mare and letting her go. She whinnied a couple of times and took off at a run with the foal at her side. The following day, I tied the mare up to the same rail and again allowed the foal to approach me. This session lasted maybe 10 minutes and I was able to get a halter on and off the foal several times during that session. After letting the mare and foal relax for a couple of days, my wife and I can now walk right up to the foal with no problems or issues. The mare keeps an eye on what we're doing, but is tolerant and sometimes seems totally oblivious to us being there.

Thank you to all who weighed in on our question about how to handle an over-protective mare. Your input was greatly appreciated.
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