11-05-2009, 11:30 PM
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#21 | Foal
Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Taranaki New Zealand.
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Thats great MM I agree with everything that you say. I like to think that I am generally non aggressive, I like to ride with light hands, I don't carry a stick and I have never used spurs (although it has been reccommended that I try them so I think I will). I also think that disciplining has to be taken on a horse by horse basis. The horse that I have now gives in quickly and gracefully. The horse I had before pushed to the extreme of everything. He would fight till he hurt himself if given the chance. Maybe I shouldn't use the word aggressive, it probably gives the wrong impression. | 
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11-06-2009, 07:37 AM
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#22 | Weanling
Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ontario, canada
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj  Haha, well, let me tell you, I prefer not to deal aggressively with a horse if I can avoid it, but this little pony I was speaking about is going to get one helluva attitude adjustment when we go back to that ditch. I deal with fear with a light hand, but in my experience, ponies like this need a much tougher hand at times. Maybe some would disagree, but I think all animals get a look in their eye when they're simply finished listening to you, and nothing under the sun is going to compromise with them. I don't tolerate that look, period. If you're snorting and blowing at something you've never seen, that's fine, I understand and we can deal with it in a compromising fashion based on how the horse best handles the situation. If you're planting your hooves 20 feet from a ditch with your ears pinned and evading every type of control I have, you're going to get your ass whupped. For example, this same pony developed a lovely habit of pinning her ears and going through the "I'ma chomp you" motions when her somewhat novice 14 year old owner was playing with her (trotting with her in the front yard on a lead rope). I noticed it instantly, so I asked to please lead the pony. I spent a few minutes working on her bending, and moving how I wanted her to and then started trotting. She immediately pinned her ears and dove for my arm. I spun around so fast and just started nailing her as hard as I could across the chest with my leadrope, backing her up faster then she ever thought she could go. I had to do this three times, and ever since that pony has trotted like a dream at anyone's shoulder on a loose leadrope. Maybe there are better methods, but it's what gets across this ponies brain. Could I do this to my Arab? Certainly not, she wouldn't tolerate it. However, she's also had her schooling and I was able to teach her very quickly what was right and what was wrong with very little force. It all depends on the horse IMO. I'm definately not opposed to getting rough with a horse that isn't understanding my subtle signals and putting people in danger. Haha, I don't think that's what you wanted kiwigirl, but I figured I'd rustle up them crickets a bit  | Dam.. Maybe there is someone else who things like me beside kiwigirl  | 
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11-06-2009, 11:58 AM
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#23 | Green Broke
Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Amarillo, TX, USA
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Kiwi, I don't know how much you know about spurs but I will go ahead and mention this in the event that there is someone else reading who is uneducated about their use.
Spurs need to be introduced to a horse for the first time in a secure environment. Wear them for the first time in an area that he is comfortable with and slowly increase pressure with them, don't just jab him in the gut the first time that you use them. Spurs should never be used as the cue, they are used to refine the cue. Sometimes I will use them as a bit of a wake-up call when a horse isn't responding to my leg as quickly as he knows he should, I will just give a little bump with a spur to say "Get over there NOW!". Over use of spurs is the leading cause of tail swishing in horses but so long as you use them sparingly and only when needed, there shouldn't be a problem.
I personally don't use spurs on my young horses for the first few rides but then after they have gotten used to being ridden, they get spurs introduced and I use them on all my older horses.
And RiosDad, I am another who thinks along the same lines as you in instances like this.  | |
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11-06-2009, 01:02 PM
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#24 | Weanling
Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ontario, canada
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Originally Posted by smrobs And RiosDad, I am another who thinks along the same lines as you in instances like this. | Maybe we should start a club Thanks smrobs | |
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11-06-2009, 03:34 PM
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#25 | Yearling
Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern Utah
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Originally Posted by RiosDad Maybe we should start a club Thanks smrobs | I'll join!! | |
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11-06-2009, 04:20 PM
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#26 | Weanling
Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ontario, canada
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses I'll join!! | You can be president | |
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11-06-2009, 07:47 PM
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#27 | Started
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canberra, Australia
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*jumps up and down*
Me too! Me too! That's my mindset to a T. | |
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11-06-2009, 07:56 PM
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#28 | Green Broke
Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Amarillo, TX, USA
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Woo-Hoo, our little club is growing. | |
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11-06-2009, 08:03 PM
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#29 | Foal
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Originally Posted by smrobs Woo-Hoo, our little club is growing. | Yes it is, I join! | |
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11-06-2009, 10:21 PM
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#30 | Weanling
Join Date: May 2009 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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I've never had a problem with your training, persay, RiosDad, just your attitude. But if you're lacking in people skills as badly as I am, I suppose it can be forgiven in the name of the greater good. ROFL, don't we need a club name? The "It's You Or Me Horse, And I like This Damn Saddle!" Club | |
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