Wow. I just read through this whole thread, and I'm not going to comment on a lot of things. But, just a few points to make.
Some horses are lazy, others aren't. Lazy, to me, is wanting to get out of work. I have one very honest, hardworking mare, that is most definitely NOT lazy. However, the majority of them are.
Spurs... I sometimes ride with them, only if I think some of my horses ARE getting lazy. They are an extension of my legs, and I simply use them so that I don't have to push as hard. Horses are more responsive to leg cues if they are trained correctly with spurs, I think. I don't just ask with the spur, though. It's leg, then spur. As soon as I don't have to use the spur anymore, it comes off. I am pretty clumsy and for some reason tend to trip on them more than other people, LOL.
Yes, Riosdad comes off as pretty offensive, and sometimes I don't agree with what he's saying. Actually, he can be quite rude and the bragging is getting out of hand. But that's not the point. The point is that we all have different training methods, and Riosdad, please, we are tired of being jumped on for having different methods. One post of advice is enough, then back to the original topic, please.
If we want advice, we will ask for it in another topic. Give your 2 cents, that's enough.
*waits to be jumped on* Just my humble opinion....
To rein a horse is not only to guide him,
but also to control his every movement.