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    11-02-2013, 03:10 PM
Owner vs. Rider

Hey guys,
I lease a four year old QH gelding at our local barn. He is a very kind horse but has developed some bad habits due to his owner. When riding, he chooses random times to come off the rail (wall) and turn into the center, occasionally picking up speed. He cannot do circles on the right rein due to lack of muscle on one side. His owner works him only on one side during lunging and riding. He can only lunge in one direction, in the other direction, he behaves poorly (taking off, bucking, and trying to change direction, even though we use a lunging cavison).
How should I go about training him, that he should listen to me and forget the things that she has taught him? Will my training have any effect on him, or with his owner also riding him (poorly) confuse him, and cause him to continue his bad behavior?
Thanks for your help
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    11-02-2013, 03:42 PM
This is one of the drawbacks of a partial lease; that you must tolerate how the other rider uses the horse, and if the other rider is the owner, you must be even more accepting.
Consider that the horse might not be capable of going the other direction , if they've only been ridden one direction for a long time. So, work into getting him flexible that way little by little.

A horse can distinguish between different riders and what each person requires of them. Just make the adjustment gradual and fair to the horse.
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    11-02-2013, 03:45 PM
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I'd bring up in casual conversation to the owner that the horse doesn't feel strong to the right and maybe he needs more work that direction. As for turning into the center, I'd quit rail work and only work him in the middle of the arena.
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    11-02-2013, 04:00 PM
I've seen horses do 180s and act completely different in one ride solely based on who's riding them. It is tougher with a partial lease, but it can be done. Just look at it as something to work towards with him. He's still young and has a lot to learn, if you establish yourself as the patient, fair, firm and even rider then he will listen to that.
    11-02-2013, 04:27 PM
Ok thanks you guys wish me luck!
    11-02-2013, 04:51 PM
If going one way is that big of a difference maybe he needs a chiro adjustment
    11-02-2013, 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by churumbeque    
if going one way is that big of a difference maybe he needs a chiro adjustment
Horses that are extremely one sided don't always need a chiropractor. It's rider error. Lack of muscle.
    11-02-2013, 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by CandyCanes    
Horses that are extremely one sided don't always need a chiropractor. It's rider error. Lack of muscle.
You do not know that for a fact and it could be lack of muscle for many different reasons including chiropractic issues.
    11-02-2013, 05:53 PM
It is almost definitely a lack of muscle due to working on one sole rein, but it could be accompanied by chiro issues ;)
    11-04-2013, 07:27 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by CandyCanes    
Horses that are extremely one sided don't always need a chiropractor. It's rider error. Lack of muscle.

This is not true. Horses may have torn muscles that accounts for this. When you have a horse that is very one sided, it should be considered and diagnostics done to see what is going on.

And that is what I would be wondering here too, if this horse has an injury that needs to be addressed.

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