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    01-20-2011, 11:32 AM
  #21
Yearling
Thanks for the well written answer! Did you get to see Guy McLean perform? Seems like he has a lot of charisma for performing. Would be so fun to watch! I can see John Lyons being a very decent person. I never could get his method to work for me either.
I have looked at the Steve Rother clinics. He is actually a fairly long drive from me and on lots of freeways. I have not reached that comfort level with pulling a horse trailer. He is pretty expensive too. But since I have now heard a "personal" recommendation from someone, you :), if he ever has a clinic closer to me I will go if I can get the time off.
     
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    01-20-2011, 06:56 PM
  #22
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While I do agree that you can learn from everyone and should see everyone's practices, I most definitely prefer Clinton Anderson over Linda and Pat Parelli. To me, it seems like the Parelli method spends a lot of time just messing around. While I understand you should play games and what not with your horses, it seems like that's all they do. Clinton spends a lot of time on ground work and really establishing respect. I've used his methods and they work great. I watch his tv show on RFD-TV and love it! His simple methods are easy enough for anyone to follow.
     
    01-20-2011, 08:27 PM
  #23
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I felt so sorry for that horse in the video! That woman is clearly ******ed! Like I never saw such a clueless horse in my life. She would just keep snapping the rope into his face and he would just move away confused and frightened.
1. If I was the owner (and was present) I would have taken my horse out of there before you could say BOO.
2. I greatly admire the horse because I would totally have lost my temper and decided to rear and trample her or something.
     
    01-20-2011, 08:51 PM
  #24
Trained
I had never seen that video of Linda Parelli...couldn't stand to watch it to the end. If she tried something like that on my horses, I'd knock her on her butt. It would be 50:50 if my mare would respond by running or fighting, but she would never ever be a willing partner for someone like that.

Doesn't mean it is all snuggles and kisses - the other day, she started to walk off while I mounted, and I backed her 100' while asking who she thought she was. But she KNEW what she was doing wrong, so she viewed it as fair discipline. She doesn't object to discipline, as long as she understands why she is in trouble.

Our gelding would freak. He's been badly spurred on a ranch, and it has taken a couple years for him to relax. One session like that, and we would have lost 2 years of progress (BTW, my daughter took a lesson on him today, and he was calm and willing and focused the entire time ).

That wasn't discipline, and it wasn't training - just flailing! She can't control the horse if she can't control herself.
     
    01-20-2011, 09:06 PM
  #25
Trained
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Originally Posted by Poseidon    
I haven't used Parelli or Clinton Anderson anything because I haven't done any real training, but I do know that the halters are all the same. You can get a rope halter at a tack shop for probably less than $10 that is the same. They are essentially the same design, but they all serve the same purpose and get the job done.
Actually there IS a difference in rope halters; halters from fleet supply stores, and the like often are alot 'softer' with less 'feel' to them, so it takes alot more work to get the horse to feel what you are trying to get across.

I didn't really believe that either, until I started purchasing rope halters from people who had made them out of higher quality ropes...my husband also purchased a CA halter and lead for me last fall, and all I literally have to do is twitch my hand a bit, and the horse feels it, and starts looking for what I am asking for; backing, foward, etc. The difference in higher quality halters/leads for ground work training is definite...in my book anyway, from personal experience.

OP, as far as the differences, and which you should stick with in regard to trainers; over the years, I have acquired alot of my horse training 'ideas' and techniques from personal experience, and LOTS of different trainers, not just one. If Parelli is working for your horse, then go with it...if you are finding you need a little more "oomph" to your training, look at someone else's methods and see what you take from that. About the only thing about Parelli that I can deduce that I don't really agree with, is the humanization he puts into his program (the whole RBI, LBI, etc) A horse is a horse...they are not human; some horses are smarter, dumber, less respectful, more respectful, or more stubborn than others, period. Don't put your horse's attitude and behaviors in regards to "work ethic" into a box...If you want him to move his feet, then get him to move his feet...don't let his 'brain type' interfere with gaining his respect; you determine how fast, and how long he moves his feet, not the horse...period, end of story.
     
    01-21-2011, 03:17 PM
  #26
Foal
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Originally Posted by Juniper    
thanks for the well written answer! Did you get to see Guy McLean perform? Seems like he has a lot of charisma for performing. Would be so fun to watch! I can see John Lyons being a very decent person. I never could get his method to work for me either.
I have looked at the Steve Rother clinics. He is actually a fairly long drive from me and on lots of freeways. I have not reached that comfort level with pulling a horse trailer. He is pretty expensive too. But since I have now heard a "personal" recommendation from someone, you :), if he ever has a clinic closer to me I will go if I can get the time off.
I say Guy McLean perform like ten times and I talked to him. He is great. Very humble and genuine. I saw him lay one horse down and side pass three others over the laying horse. It was AMAZING. Steve Rother is along way from me too, I live in Alaska, however, he travels up here twice a year. He is expensive but not as expensive as any of the people we were talking about on here and I would say he was more worth the money that CA or PP. I mean he is the best. He always pushes me and my horse just past where I think we are and I learn a ton. I have been to like 7 clinics of his or so. I have always had a blast and my horse has come so far as have I.

John Lyons was so funny. I didn't expect him to be so down to earth and funny. He is truely a horse master. He was so fun. One day he was working with his horses at liberty and he kept shocking them becaue of the static electricity in the air. Soon the didn't want to approach him. He laughed and worked them through it. He was just so great.
     
    01-21-2011, 03:34 PM
  #27
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Hidalgo13    
I felt so sorry for that horse in the video! That woman is clearly ******ed! Like I never saw such a clueless horse in my life. She would just keep snapping the rope into his face and he would just move away confused and frightened.
1. If I was the owner (and was present) I would have taken my horse out of there before you could say BOO.
2. I greatly admire the horse because I would totally have lost my temper and decided to rear and trample her or something.
I understand the horse in the video is blind in one eye & couldn't give her 'two eyes' like she wanted. The owner was standing near the tree.
     
    01-21-2011, 03:39 PM
  #28
Banned
Off topic - Natisha, love your avatar. Is that woolly creature yours?
     
    01-21-2011, 03:40 PM
  #29
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Off topic - Natisha, love your avatar. Is that woolly creature yours?
Yeah! I want to know to. It looks like a baby doll sheep but bigger.
     
    01-21-2011, 04:25 PM
  #30
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by myhorsesonador    
Yeah! I want to know to. It looks like a baby doll sheep but bigger.
& Alwaysbehind- Yes, that is Lambo. He's not a baby doll but he's a doll. He follows me around like a big dog. He's never fenced in & doesn't go anywhere. I saw him at a County Fair last summer & couldn't let him go on 'the truck'. He's a joy.
Thanks for asking

     

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