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post #1 of 10 Old 07-20-2011, 02:57 AM Thread Starter
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Hi, I have a 11 year old stock horse, bay and I do parelli level 3.
For those who know parelli he is a Left brain introvert but I've learned to motivate him. I was wondering how you begin passage with your horse. He already wants to learn new things and I've got quite far with him I want to advance it a bit. Just want some tips on starting. Thanks for your help.
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Hi, I have a 11 year old stock horse, bay and I do parelli level 3.
For those who know parelli he is a Left brain introvert but I've learned to motivate him. I was wondering how you begin passage with your horse. He already wants to learn new things and I've got quite far with him I want to advance it a bit. Just want some tips on starting. Thanks for your help.
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You will never get a passage from a horse trained the way your horse is.
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post #3 of 10 Old 07-20-2011, 11:17 AM
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should i or should i not.........
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NOTHING in Parelli training will lead a horse to have the basic training needed to create a correct passage later.
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Aha. The "Parelli Piaffe." Sorry, OP, but Parelli's way will never lead you to a piaffe or passage.... Only to a horse mincing his steps.
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Don't want to Hijack this thread but this has got me really interested so can these movements only be performed through dressage training?

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Leaving aside the Parelli question for a moment, teaching a horse true passage first of all requires an exceptional individual, with excellent conformation, good clean gaits, and a lot of suspension in their trot.

Then you add to that years of systematice gymnastic training, gradually developing increased implusion and collection as the horse's fitness can support them.

It is not something that's properly taught as a trick, but taught as part of the logical progression of a long, well-structured training regimen developing the collected gaits.
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post #9 of 10 Old 07-20-2011, 11:36 AM
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Hi, I have a 11 year old stock horse, bay and I do parelli level 3.
For those who know parelli he is a Left brain introvert but I've learned to motivate him. I was wondering how you begin passage with your horse. He already wants to learn new things and I've got quite far with him I want to advance it a bit. Just want some tips on starting. Thanks for your help.
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How did you come to the conclusion that your horse is a left brain introvert?

While I think it is wonderful that you are doing ground work with your boy, I have to say that sadly, doing NH will get you nowhere in the dressage world.

The Passage is a very advanced movement in the dressage world, achieved only after all the other essential steps have been taken and accomplished.

If you want to get into dressage, my advice is to look into dressage lessons. Best of luck!

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post #10 of 10 Old 07-21-2011, 05:03 AM
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MIE - of course she knows, she's Parelli trained ;)

Oh dear me, I have a very short tolerance to these questions tonight (looooooong day at work!), I should probably stop answering them!!
Mate, as others have said... passage isn't just a party trick. If it was, why the hell are us dressage riders spending so much time, effort, money, blood, sweat and tears on our sport to achieve movements such as the piaffe and passage when we could just buy a parelli book and teach the horse to 'shuffle'?
Believe it or not, it actually takes an immense about of strength and fitness on the horse's part to hold these movements, hence they are introduced only at the very top level of dressage, giving the horse YEARS to prepare with correct work and training.

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