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  • How to make a horse rate on their first barrel
  • Keepin first barrel from being wide

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    05-03-2012, 06:38 PM
  #1
Foal
Passing up the first barrel??????

I have a problem!!! Ok so I have a seven year old gelding that has been doing barrels for about a year and a half!!! He runs a perfect and I mean perfect pattern at home, but we get to the horse show and he passes up the first barrel he runs like 15 feet away from it and I have to turn him around to get him to go around that first barrel, the other two barrels he runs perfect it's just that first barrel!!!! He walks in to the gate fine I make a couple circles and then run him to that first barrel and he passes it every time it doesnt matter how hard I pull on that right ran for him to turn he does it every time except at the my training arena!!! I get really frustrated because we could be doing so good and that mess up adds at least 3-5 seconds to the clock!!!! Is there anything I can do to make him run and actually turn at the first barrel? Please please comment if you can help!!!!!! Thank you!!!
     
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    05-03-2012, 07:40 PM
  #2
Trained
He obviously doesn't have enough rate for the first barrel. You need to check him about 15-20 feet before the barrel in order to get a good turn from him. I don't know how you ride, but if your riding aggressively at the 1st barrel, chances are, he's going to blow right past it. You need to also look at how YOU are setting him up for the 1st barrel. If your getting too close, he won't be able to do perfect turn. You'll need to angle him more.

Anyway you can post a video? It hard to give advice when we can't see what exactly is going on from a 3rd person perspective...
     
    05-03-2012, 08:19 PM
  #3
Foal
Idk how to post a video
     
    05-03-2012, 08:30 PM
  #4
Trained
Video it, slap it on youtube, give us a link.....
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    05-03-2012, 09:50 PM
  #5
Yearling
My gelding did that at the first barrel, we went left first, so one left turn and two rights. He went from perfect to would blow the first barrel every time. Ended up being a leg issue, gave him some rest and he was fine. Rule out any pain issues with turning before pushing him to do it. I borrowed a horse for state one year. The owner told me to go wide on the third barrel. We had such good turns on 1 and 2, that I lost focus of what he sais and ruined our run. After making sure he isn't hurting, try giving him a pocket and see if that helps.
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    05-03-2012, 09:53 PM
  #6
Foal
Ok, and how did you find out he had somen wrong with his leg?
     
    05-03-2012, 10:11 PM
  #7
Foal
here is a video
     
    05-03-2012, 10:15 PM
  #8
Trained
Wow. Just...wow. Your horse has no idea what he is doing in that video. You need to back off and go back to slow work or your going to ruin him. Every single turn was a disaster. The 2nd barrel, he nearly took out. The 3rd barrel was extremely wide. And the first barrel...I don't even know what to say...

I know that's very harsh. But it's so easy to ruin a barrel horse. And that is the last thing you need or what.

Stop running him and go back to walking and trotting the pattern. Learn about a pocket because your horse has no idea what a pocket is...Therefore, he has NO idea how to turn.

You are giving him mixed signals. "Go, no wait don't go, go faster! Stop!" Your kicking him to get him to go, and when he does, your jerking on his mouth and slowing him up.

What type of bit are you using on him? He is totally evading it.

And...take the spurs off. You don't need them.

I think it'd be wise for you to get a trainer to help you bring him along or find a horse that's already a seasoned barrel horse and knows his/her job.
     
    05-03-2012, 10:19 PM
  #9
Started
You need to go at your first barrel from the middle of the arena, and it just looks like you guys need more slow work, working on pushing that hip into the barrel, bending around it, using his whole body, softening through the face and poll. I wouldn't be running yet...

I thought my horse needed slow work... but it's nothing compared to this.
     
    05-03-2012, 10:20 PM
  #10
Trained
Agreed...I know you probably are going to think we are being unfair there, but the horse is NOT respecting your cues at all, and in turn causing you to panic and him to react as well.

Go back to the basics. Get him respecting your leg and rein, THEN take him back to the pattern and go SLOWSLOWSLOW until he could walk/trot it forwards and backwards with his eyes closed without making a single mistake JUST from your cues.
     

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