I had some interesting encounters with his carrotstick and other methods...
E had a trainer that learned his methods coming to our club, but I never joined...
Some things are nice, but these are essential things just natural horsebahviour..
This is how a horse reacts...No hokus pokus and his special method...
I have to agree with "desperate housewife"..
I had a similar growing up... and rasied my horses on m y own.
Honestly I never cared much for the Guru trip! Knowledge is good, but I don't have to worship one of them and pay ungoodly amounts of money to get my horse trained just to put a trainingmehtod on him I an't aprove off all the way!
Like with all the animals I train, I do what works! I take a pick here and try out something new from there.. but I keep my own stile, It works!
Desperate horsewife, You would be one of a few that think that, I try to tell so many people that same thing. Sometimes you can train something out of a horse in 30 days, but it doesn't do any good when they will just train it to do again after 3 days back at there place.
Kitten val, I get on a horse just after 1 or 2 times in the round pen if you do it right you can have a ok horse after 30 days nothing close to broke but, I don't call a horse the will not buck broke it takes a lot more than that for me to call a horse broke.
Haflinger, I will use a carrot stick time to time but not when I am riding, " just natural horse behavior" you said it you just got to know how to speak horse and know what they are thinking, there's nothing special about it. You could not be more right "do what works" if it works for you and your horse than why change it?
I have never seen so many people think the same way I do about Parelli, I was thinking I was going to get jumped on for saying what I said.
Pat Parelli is wonderful, but so is John Lyons, and Clinton Anderson, and a ton of other trainers I love to death.
I think it all depends on the person's natural style, as well as their learning style. Its the same as when we are trying to learn something in college, everyone goes about a different way, and oftentimes, trying someone elses way just doesn't work for us.
For me, I like Pat Parelli/John Lyons/Clinton on the ground, and then Clinton Anderson/Bob Avila/John Lyons in the saddle (yup, I use all their stuff.) I mix and match babe! Lol.
In any case, I always start a horse with Parelli's games. It makes ground work fun, and it really does get the horse's moving in all directions with just a suggestion from the ground. By the time I get in the saddle they know pressure in certain places means to move in the same way we did on the ground. They respect and trust me by the time saddle work comes, and they also are excellent loading into the trailer. Even with trained horses, I play the games a bit to see what kind of mood they are in before I get on. Parelli calls them pre-flight checks, and they help me work out the horse's mental issues of the day before I climb aboard.
As for in the saddle, I've never really tried alot of Parelli's stuff. I don't know... it just never appealled to me so much. I worship his ground work but I'm still true to John Lyons and Bob Avilla. I think mostly I take lessons/advice from many well known trainers and their videos/articles and use them if I like them and if the work for me. End of story.