Originally Posted by restless spirit
Who's your favorite trainer Clinton Anderson, pat parelli or john Lyons? I'm kind of on the fence with all three but I want to no your opinions and why you like them
First...all of em...are the same in the basic foundation ideas. They just have their own takes on them that are slightly different. But basically...it's all the same.
Present the horse with an idea (don't use force or pain) and let him figure it out by way of using rhythm and a pattern of requests. Always use light pressure first but be willing to add as much as you need and always reward the slightest try. Focus on what you want, not on what you don't want. Etc....
Clinton Anderson is to the point, no b.s. Just do it. I like that. And incorporate some of his training methods.
Pat Parelli has a good 7 games to start with, that's really all I know about him. He turns the training into lots of games which is fine, but he seems long winded and I don't like the "this is the only way to do this!" mentality that I run into from the folks who follow his methods to a T. I don't agree that you need his carrot stick or a special halter or special anything to succeed. But like I said, his basic stuff is good.
I got certified through John Lyons so I do the basics like Bridlework. I got the outline for training from him, but I needed to put together my own training plans based on some of the stuff I get from other trainers (big name and not big name) and from making up my own stuff, too....based on what horse needs what, and what owners need what. Unfortunately, he didn't teach me how to handle "problem" horses, I had to learn that from others. He also doesn't push the horse when sometimes there needs to be some push to get the horse through the issues caused by their owners or past bad experiences.
I also listen to Chris Cox, Stephanie Westfall, Ken McNabb,....
I didn't grow up with horses, so I had to learn from these people.
I would highly recommend if you are interested in learning about this....get Tom Dorrance, Bill Dorrance and Ray Hunt Books. These are the original cowboys who brought the whole Natural Horsemanship stuff to the public long before any of the "big names" ever did. They're the "inspiration" behind it all in the U.S. Far as I've learned.
Mark Rachid has some great info, too.