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    05-20-2012, 10:13 AM
Personally I've found very little of Parrelli's system to be usefuil with my horses. In one case it would have been rather dangerous....and that was with one of the easiest horses I ever trained. Even Parrelli doesn't show you the problems he's had with some horses and some of the methodes he's used to force a horse to do things that actually go against what he promotes. If it doesn't make his system look wonderful you don't get to see it . But none of them will show you the problems or their failures.
Like most of the people who are selling a product they have to be in lock stepped with what they promote. It wouldn't be practical for them to admit that their way isn't always right or always work. Would be a bit like a driving instructor who admits that what they teach might not be right. They probably wouldn't be in business long.

I'd take the time to read that other thread. There's a lot of different inputs.

Training your horse isn't about following someone else's "system". It's about using what gives you the best results. Knowledge of horses in general, the horse you're training in specific and a lot of common sense will be the most useful things you have for training a horse. If you need ideas I'd look at what the different promoters have out there. Use what will work best with your horse, but I'd never say you should become a follower of any of them. And remember that you can have ideas and insights that might work better for you than what they promote. They don't know your horse. You do.
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    05-20-2012, 12:02 PM
Parelli to me promotes too much of a butterflies and rainbows, ride into the sunset type relationship with your horse which I don't think works very well with a lot of people. I also like Clinton Anderson cause he is easy to follow and actually teaches you things without having to spend a lot of money. Parelli is the opposite in the way he shows you the end result and expects you to pay to learn anything.

I've been to one of his clinics. Awful. He came to my college class and gave a presentation and demo. Awful again. I even question some of his products. The rope halter that he promotes kept sliding off various horses faces and would get pulled up into their mouths at the slightest tug.

So definitely look into CA and even some other people like Julie Goodnight. She came into our class too.
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    05-20-2012, 01:10 PM
I strongly suggest you look into some of Buck Brannaman's stuff. Of all the big name clinicians out there, he is the most impressive to me. Second to him, though, CA is a decent place to start. Unlike PP, he actually uses horses that have never done the exercise before so you can see how and untrained horse might react. CA shows you how to deal with the issues instead of just showing off "this is how it should look". That doesn't help a person at all if the horse doesn't react exactly right the first time around. CA preaches respect, not love. Horses don't love, they don't know what love is in the human sense of the word. For a horse, the only love they can feel and exhibit is actually nothing more than respect and trust.
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    05-20-2012, 02:38 PM
Do NOT do Parrelli! Its too much fluff and creates pushy horses that think they're in charge. It will lead to dangerous situations.

Aside from videos, there are many helpful books too. The 101 series (101 dressage exercises, 101 arena exercises, 101 jumping exercises) is very very helpful, clear and step by step. It basically plans every day out for you and starts from the very basics of training. There is even a part on rider fitness. And it is in callendar format so you can hang it up to read while you ride.
    05-20-2012, 06:54 PM
Thank you so much! I will definitely try everyone's ideas. :)
    05-20-2012, 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=Skyseternalangel;1507874]If you're going to follow someone's channel, I suggest Clinton Anderson. He seems to be level headed.

Though I am not a fan of Parelli at all..QUOTE]

I totally agree.
    05-20-2012, 11:00 PM
Hey guys...

*Ahem* If you want a real channel to follow:

havesaddlewilltravel - YouTube

    05-21-2012, 08:58 AM
Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
Hey guys...

*Ahem* If you want a real channel to follow:

havesaddlewilltravel - YouTube

Well darn I forgot about him! Fixed it though
    05-21-2012, 09:04 AM
Originally Posted by Horsealot    
I've been looking for good training videos that could help me with my gelding. I was recently on youtube watching some of Pat Parrelli's videos. It was hard for me to understand because it seemed like the horses he was using already knew the exercise. Do you know of any other good videos/trainers I should look into? Am I misinterpreting Parrelli's videos?

Not a fan of Pat Parelli AT ALL.

Clinton Anderson and John Lyons are ones that I suggest.
    05-21-2012, 09:07 AM
Originally Posted by Rascaholic    
Well darn I forgot about him! Fixed it though
I know right? I did too.. but he's worth following! (Take that phrase lightly.. not literally LOL)

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